Analyzing Inelastic Collisions in 2-D: Solving for Final Velocity and Angle

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In an inelastic collision scenario, a 950 kg car traveling at 16 m/s collides with a 1300 kg minivan moving at 21 m/s, resulting in both vehicles sticking together. The momentum conservation equations for both x and y components are set up to find the final speed and direction of the combined wreck. The confusion arises when dividing the y momentum equation by the x momentum equation to eliminate the final velocity, which is a valid mathematical approach as long as the denominators are not zero. This method allows for solving the angle of deflection without needing the final velocity directly. Understanding this technique is crucial for solving similar physics problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


A car with mass of 950 kg and speed of 16 m/s approches an intersection in the positive x direction. A 1300-kg minivan traveling at 21m/s is heading towards the same intersection in the positive y direction. The car and minivan collide and stick together. Fine the speed and direction of the wrecked vehicles just after the collision, assuming external forces can be ignored.


Homework Equations


p = mv
\sum p before = \sum after


The Attempt at a Solution



Well this question was grabbed from my physics textbook as an example question.

Here are the steps they preformed:

1. Set the initial x component of momentum equal to the final x component of momentum
m_{1}v_{1} = (m_{1} + m_{2})v_{f}cos\vartheta

2. Do the same of the y component of momentum.
m_{2}v_{2} = (m_{2} + m_{2})v_{f}sin\vartheta

I understand everything up to this part, but I got confused when they divide the y momentum equation by the x momentum equation. They did it to eliminate the final velocity, giving an equation solving for \vartheta alone.

My question is: Why is it that you can divide to eliminate variables??

Oh, and those are suppose to be subscripts, not superscripts...
 
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\sin^2\theta+\cos^2\theta=1

Just put \sin\theta and \cos\theta

And unknown left is v(f)
 
Hurricane3 said:

Homework Statement


A car with mass of 950 kg and speed of 16 m/s approches an intersection in the positive x direction. A 1300-kg minivan traveling at 21m/s is heading towards the same intersection in the positive y direction. The car and minivan collide and stick together. Fine the speed and direction of the wrecked vehicles just after the collision, assuming external forces can be ignored.


Homework Equations


p = mv
\sum p before = \sum after


The Attempt at a Solution



Well this question was grabbed from my physics textbook as an example question.

Here are the steps they preformed:

1. Set the initial x component of momentum equal to the final x component of momentum
m_{1}v_{1} = (m_{1} + m_{2})v_{f}cos\vartheta

2. Do the same of the y component of momentum.
m_{2}v_{2} = (m_{2} + m_{2})v_{f}sin\vartheta

I understand everything up to this part, but I got confused when they divide the y momentum equation by the x momentum equation. They did it to eliminate the final velocity, giving an equation solving for \vartheta alone.

My question is: Why is it that you can divide to eliminate variables??

Oh, and those are suppose to be subscripts, not superscripts...

You can always divide two equations. If A = B and C=D, then the ratio A/C must equal B/D as long as C and D are not zero. This is a common trick.
 
ahh okay thanks.

i never did it this way before :shy:
 
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