Analyzing torque of an automobile engine

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The discussion revolves around analyzing the torque of an automobile engine, specifically focusing on calculating the moment of inertia for various components such as the shaft, axle, and wheels. Participants are exploring the relationships between torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss using the equation for torque and moment of inertia, with one member outlining their calculations for the total moment of inertia. Questions arise regarding the correctness of these calculations and the definitions used for the components involved.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, pointing out potential errors and suggesting careful attention to units and the scope of parentheses in equations. There is acknowledgment of corrections made by others, but no explicit consensus on the final outcome has been reached.

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Homework Statement
An automobile engine can produce 200 Nm of torque. Calculate the angular acceleration produced if 95.0% of this torque is applied to the drive shaft, axle, and rear wheels of a car, given the following information. The car is suspended so that the wheels can turn freely. Each wheel acts like a 15.0-kg disk that has a 0.180-m radius. The walls of each tire act like a 2.00-kg annular ring that has inside radius of 0.180-m and outside radius of 0.320-m. The tread of each tire acts like a 10.0-kg hoop of radius 0.330-m. The 14.0-kg axle acts like a rod that has a 2.00-cm radius. The 30.0-kg drive shaft acts like a rod that has a 3.20-cm radius.
Relevant Equations
## \sum \tau = I\alpha ##
My strategy for this problem is to use the equation, ## \sum \tau = I\alpha ## to find ## \alpha ##.
## I_{total} = I_{shaft} + I_{axle} + 2(I_{wheel}) ##
## I_{wheel} = I_{disk (hub)} + I_{ring (wall)} + I_{ring (treads)} ##

Is this the correct way to calculate the moment of inertia?
 
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Lnewqban said:
I would calculate the total resistance to accelerated rotation that the 95% of the engine torque will face.

Just be careful with the units.

Please, see:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi.html
Does any of my work stand out as being incorrect here?
## I_{shaft} = \frac{1}{2}m_{shaft}r_{shaft}^2 ##
## = 0.015 kg \cdot m^2 ##

## I_{axle} = \frac{1}{2}m_{axle}r_{axle}^2 ##
## = 0.003 kg \cdot m^2 ##

## I_{wheel} = I_{disk (hub)} + I_{ring (wall)} + I_{ring (treads)} ##
## = \frac{1}{2}(m_{disk}r_{disk}^2 + m_{wall}(r_{wall,i}^2 + r_{wall,o}^2) + m_{ring}r_{ring}^2) ##
## = 0.92 kg \cdot m^2 ##

## I_{total} = I_{shaft} + I_{axle} + 2(I_{wheel}) ##
## I_{total} = 1.86 kg \cdot m^2 ##

## \sum \tau = I\alpha ##
## 200 N \cdot m = (1.86 kg \cdot m^2)\alpha ##
## \alpha = 102.2 \frac{rad}{s^2} ##
 
I_Try_Math said:
Does any of my work stand out as being incorrect here?
Yes.
I_Try_Math said:
## I_{wheel} = I_{disk (hub)} + I_{ring (wall)} + I_{hoop (treads)} ##
"The tread of each tire acts like a ... hoop of radius 0.330-m."

Wheel moments of inertia.jpg
 
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In case you are puzzled by @Lnewqban's post, check the scope of your parentheses…
I_Try_Math said:
## = \frac{1}{2}(… + m_{ring}r_{ring}^2) ##
Also, I would keep each term to at least three decimal places until they are summed.
 
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Lnewqban said:
Yes.

"The tread of each tire acts like a ... hoop of radius 0.330-m."

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You're correct and thank you. I was finally able to get the right answer.
 
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haruspex said:
In case you are puzzled by @Lnewqban's post, check the scope of your parentheses…

Also, I would keep each term to at least three decimal places until they are summed.
Right, thank you for the hints. I was finally able to get the correct answer.
 

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