Angular acceleration of a cylinder with a string

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The problem involves a cylinder with a string wound around it, subjected to a constant force, and requires the calculation of angular acceleration, angular velocity, kinetic energy, and moment of inertia. The context is within rotational dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to find angular acceleration using the relationship between torque and moment of inertia, while expressing uncertainty about the mass of the cylinder. They also explore the connection between angular acceleration and angular velocity over time.

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Participants have provided feedback on the calculations, with one participant suggesting a check of the work done. The original poster acknowledges a mistake and expresses gratitude for the assistance, indicating a collaborative atmosphere without a definitive resolution yet.

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The original poster mentions being without physics resources, which may impact their ability to verify their calculations and assumptions.

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Homework Statement


A cylinder with radius r = 0.6 m hangs in a horisontal frictionless axis. A string is winded around it and a constant force, F = 50.0 N, is acting on the string from t1 = 0 s to t2 = 2.00 s. During this time, L = 5 m of the string unwinds. The system starts from rest.
a) Angular acceleration, alpha = ?
b) Angular velocity, omega2 at t2 = ?
c) Final kinetic energy = ?
d) Moment of inertia, I = ?

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The Attempt at a Solution


The only thing that actually troubles me is finding alpha, because I think that once I have it, everything else is easily solved. (am I right thinking that omega2 = alpha*t2 ? Since alpha is constant, I cannot imagine it being in any other way)
Now, I've tried using r x F = I*alpha, but as I don't know the mass of the cylinder, that equation doesn't help me. (I think that once I know alpha, r x F = I*alpha is the equation to use to find I) I've used the fact that the work done by the force is W = F * L = 2500 Nm.
By using
W = \int F*v dt
with boundaries t1 = 0 to t2 = 2, a = alpha*r and F = m*a I get 2*F*alpha*r = W. From this I get alpha = 41.7 rad/s2. I'm not sure this is correct though, and I would have expected alpha to be a bit smaller...
With alpha = 41.7 rad/s2 and t2 = 2 s I get omega2 = 41.7*2 = 83.4 rad/s. I also used W = T2 - 1, where T is kinetic energy. Since omega1 = v1 = 0, T1 = 0. T2 = (I*(omega2)2)/2. With the moment of inertia for a cylinder, I = (m*r2)/2 I get m(r2*omega22)/4 = m*alpha*r*L, and m cancels out. Solving for omega2 I get 37.3 rad/s, which is not what I got using omega2 = alpha*t2. Can anyone explain this to me? I'm sure I got a lot wrong, and the fact that I'm in my summer house without a single physics book doesn't help.

Thanks a lot for even reading this!
 
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Check the work: F=50 N, s=5 m.

ehild
 
Woah... That's quite embarrasing!
Anyway, I'm happy that that was the only mistake I made... Thank you, ehild!
 
It was a nice work. You are welcome.

ehild
 

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