Angular Momentum of a system of particles relative to another point

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The discussion focuses on calculating the total angular momentum of a system of two particles about two different points. For point A, the calculated angular momentum is 25610 kgm²/s, while for point B, the initial calculation was incorrect due to a sign error; the correct angular momentum should also be negative. The participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying the angular momentum formula, L = Position × m v, while considering the direction of motion. The conversation highlights the need for careful attention to detail in calculations, particularly when changing reference points. Ultimately, the correct angular momentum for point B is confirmed to be negative.
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Homework Statement


Two particles move in opposite directions along a straight line. Particle 1 of mass m1 = 23 kg at x1 = 16 m moves with a speed v1 = 34 m/s (to the right), while the particle 2 of mass m2 = 64 kg at x2 = −25 m moves with a speed v2 = −43 m/s (to the left). Given: Counter-clockwise is the positive angular direction.

1)What is the total angular momentum of the system about the z-axis relative to point A along y-axis if d1 = 13 m? Answer in units of kgm2/s.

2) What is the total angular momentum of the system about the z-axis relative to point B along y-axis if d2 = 22 m? Answer in units of kgm2/s.

m1 = 23
Position1 = {16 i, 0 j, 0 k}
v1 = {34 i, 0 j, 0 k}

m2 = 64
Pos2 = {-25 i , 0 j, 0 k}
v2 = {-43 i, 0 j, 0 k}

d1 = {0 i, -13 j, 0 k}
d2 = {0 i, 22 j, 0 k}



Homework Equations



L = Position \times m v

The Attempt at a Solution



I got number 1 correct, and number 2 should be the same. however just changing d1 to d2 does not give the correct answer.


1)
{16, 0 , 0} + {0, -13, 0} = {16, -13, 0}
{-25 , 0, 0}+ {0, -13, 0} = {-25, -13, 0}

{16, -13, 0} \times (23 {34 , 0 , 0 }) +
{-25, -13, 0} \times (64 {-43 , 0 , 0 }) = {0, 0, -25610} = 25610 k

2) should be the same but I get {0, 0, 43340} which is incorrect
 

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Hi DarkerStorm! Welcome to PF! :smile:
DarkerStorm said:
1)
{16, 0 , 0} + {0, -13, 0} = {16, -13, 0}
{-25 , 0, 0}+ {0, -13, 0} = {-25, -13, 0}

{16, -13, 0} \times (23 {34 , 0 , 0 }) +
{-25, -13, 0} \times (64 {-43 , 0 , 0 }) = {0, 0, -25610} = 25610 k

2) should be the same but I get {0, 0, 43340} which is incorrect


Looks ok to me (opposite sign to 1), of course). :confused:

(btw, you could have omitted the {16, 0 , 0} and {-25, 0 , 0} :wink:)

hmm … you could try 43440, in case someone hit the wrong key. :redface:
 
Thanks the problem was that number 2 have to be negative.
 
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