Angular properties of quadrilaterals

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to the angular properties of an irregular quadrilateral, where the original poster seeks to determine the length of an unknown side given the lengths of three sides and two interior angles.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand if it is possible to find the unknown side with the given information or if additional data is needed. Some participants suggest using trigonometric methods involving the cosine and sine rules to approach the problem.

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Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth exchange, with one providing a detailed approach involving trigonometric rules. The original poster expresses appreciation for the guidance, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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The original poster mentions a lack of familiarity with pre-calculus mathematics and geometry, which may influence their understanding of the problem and the proposed methods.

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I'm trying to solve a physics problem concerning phasor additions, but unfortunately it seems I've forgotten most of my pre-calc maths, especially geometry.

Given a irregular quadrilateral with 3 of its sides of known length, and the values of 2 of its interior angles (specifically the angles formed at the junction where 2 of the 3 known sides meet), is there any way where I may determine the length of the unknown side? Or do I require more information?
 
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Yes, but only if your willing to grind through quite a lot of trig. Heres the basic gist of it:

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Say that looks something like the 3 sides of the quadrilateral, you know the lengths of all the sides, and the angles |_ and _/ . Draw a line to to top of the line | to the mid point of _, and draw another line from the top of / to the middle of _ as well. Now we have 2 triangles, and in them we know the length of the original sides, plus angles in the right place. Using what you know, for each triangle, use the cosine rule ( [itex]a^2 = b^2+c^2 - 2bc \cos A[/itex] where A is the angle opposite side a) to find the lengths of the sides that you just drew.

Now, we know all the sides and 1 of the angles, for each of the triangles. use the sine rule ([itex]a/\sin A = b/ \sin B = c / \sin C[/itex]) to find the angle between the 2 lines that you drew. With the known information you the cosine rule again to find the length of the side opposite the angle you just worked out, and that's the unknown side.
 
Ahh, I see it now, thanks Gib!
 
No worries :)
 
Gib Z, you are brilliant. Have you taught Geometry?
 
Well I do tutor all mathematics to students my own age (for a very petty sum may i add), but that's about all my teaching experience. I don't even get minimum wage...
 

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