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Exactly!
ChrisVer said:If you want:
\begin{align}
t_a t_b t_c t_d = & (\delta_{ab} 1+ i \epsilon_{abk} t_k ) (\delta_{cd} 1+ i \epsilon_{cdm} t_m ) \\
=& \delta_{ab} \delta_{cd} 1+ i \delta_{ab} \epsilon_{cdm}t_m + i \epsilon_{abk} \delta_{cd} t_k - \epsilon_{abk} \epsilon_{cdm} t_k t_m \\
=& \delta_{ab} \delta_{cd} 1 + i \delta_{ab} \epsilon_{cdm}t_m + i \epsilon_{abk} \delta_{cd} t_k - \epsilon_{abk} \epsilon_{cdm} \delta_{km} 1- i \epsilon_{abk} \epsilon_{cdm} \epsilon_{kmr} t_r \\
\end{align}
Now using that Tr t_{a}=0 and also that T_a = \frac{1}{2} t_a
The trace will be: Tr (T_a T_b T_c T_d ) = \frac{2}{2^4} \delta_{ab} \delta_{cd} - \epsilon_{abk} \epsilon_{cdk} \frac{2}{2^4}= \frac{1}{8} ( \delta_{ab} \delta_{cd} - \delta_{ac} \delta_{bd} + \delta_{ad} \delta_{cb} )
Maybe this derivation needs some checking, also maybe I shouldn't have written the contraction of the two epsilons, since they are antisymmetric in the first indices, but I think you contract them with something symmetric in those indices..
Hepth said:Just for reference, The full form I believe is :
Tr[T[a,b,c,d]]=δadδbc−δacδbd+δabδcd4N+18(−ifadedbce+idadefbce+dadedbce−dbdedace+dcdedabe)Tr[T[a,b,c,d]] = \frac{\delta _{ad} \delta _{bc}-\delta _{ac} \delta _{bd}+\delta _{ab} \delta _{cd}}{4 N}+\frac{1}{8} \left(-i f_{ade} d_{bce}+i d_{ade} f_{bce}+d_{ade} d_{bce}-d_{bde} d_{ace}+d_{cde} d_{abe}\right)
For any SU(N).
MathematicalPhysicist said:eqs. (27.23)-(27.24) on page 166 of Srednicki's QFT.
In this case we don't have a book preview of pages 166-167 .
So I'll write the equations:
(27.23) ln |\mathcal{T}|^2_{obs} = C_1+2ln \alpha +3\alpha (ln \mu +C_2)+O(\alpha^2)
Now he says that "Differentiating wrt ln \mu then gives":
(27.24)0=\frac{d}{dln \mu} ln |\mathcal{T}|^2_{obs} = \frac{2}{\alpha} \frac{d\alpha}{dln \mu} +3\alpha +O(\alpha^2)
Now as far as I can tell when you differentiate: \frac{d}{dln \mu} (3\alpha(ln \mu +C_2))=3\alpha + 3 \frac{d\alpha}{dln \mu} (ln \mu +C_2)
so where did 3 \frac{d\alpha}{dln \mu} ln \mu disapper from eq. (27.24)?
Don't see why he didn't include this term in eq. (27.24).
Anyone?
I still don't understand eq. (92.22) I mean the ##r## appears on the rhs after taking a limit on the lhs of ##r\rightarrow \infty##, why does it depend on ##r##?vanhees71 said:So here's what's in Srednicki. He's looking at a global U(1) QFT with spontaneous symmetry breaking in 1+2 dimensions. Translating into the usual west-coast convention the Lagrangian reads
$$\mathcal{L}=(\partial_{\mu} \phi)^{*} (\partial_{\mu} \phi)-\frac{\lambda}{4} (\phi^* \phi-v^2)^2.$$
Now he introduces polar coordinates ##(r,\phi)## (note the difference between the field ##\varphi## and the polar angle ##\phi##; Srednicki has sometimes a bit unfortunate notation). Now he looks for vacuum solutions (i.e., stationary solutions of the classical field equations) with winding number ##n##,
$$\varphi(r,\phi)=v f(r) \exp[\mathrm{i} n \phi(r)].$$
Now to avoid the confusion, we can easily write everything a bit more carefully. What he assumes is that
$$f(r) \simeq 1 \quad \text{for} \quad r \rightarrow \infty, \quad f(0)=0.$$
The latter assumption is in order to make the solution well-behaved in the coordinate singularity ##r=0##.
Now he's calculating the field energy and shows that the gradient term diverges. With the ansatz above you get
$$\vec{\nabla} \varphi=v \left [f'(r) \vec{e}_r + \frac{f(r)}{r} \phi'(r) \vec{e}_{\phi} \right ]\exp[\mathrm{i} n \phi(r)].$$
Since ##f(r) \simeq 1## for ##r \rightarrow \infty## the total field energy diverges like ##1/r## for ##r \rightarrow \infty##. In (92.16) is an obvious typo. The integrand goes like ##1/r^2##, as written correctly in (92.15).
MathematicalPhysicist said:but you did use hermiticity of C,
Well, for the solution for ##C## you wrote the ansatz ##C=\sqrt{v^2+a}##, so you suppose that ##v## and ##a## are real.ChrisVer said:No I didn't use hermitianity. I just wrote down a solution... It happens to give you C^\dagger =C.
Then:
<X> = c \theta <A> - s \theta <B>= \Big( c \theta +\frac{2 \kappa <C>}{m} s \theta \Big) <A>
The thing in the big parenthesis is:
c \theta \Big(1+ \frac{2 \kappa }{m} <C> \tan \theta \Big)
c \theta \Big(1+ \frac{4 \kappa^2 }{m^2} <C>^2 \Big)
Using that ##\cos \tan^{-1} x = (x^2+1)^{-1/2}## you get:\frac{1+ \frac{4 \kappa^2 }{m^2} <C>^2}{\sqrt{\frac{4 \kappa^2}{m^2} <C>^2 +1}}
=\sqrt{1+\frac{4 \kappa^2}{m^2} <C>^2}
Then put ##C^2 = v^2 -\frac{m^2}{2 \kappa}##
you obtain:
\sqrt{1 + \frac{4 \kappa^2 v^2}{m^2} - \frac{4 \kappa^2 m^2}{m^2 2 \kappa} }
\sqrt{1-2 + \frac{4 \kappa^2 v^2}{m^2}}
\sqrt{\frac{4 \kappa^2 v^2}{m^2}-1}
MathematicalPhysicist said:Well, for the solution for
MathematicalPhysicist said:CC you wrote the ansatz C=v2+a−−−−−√C=\sqrt{v^2+a}, so you suppose that vv and aa are real.
MathematicalPhysicist said:As for your second solution to b), you get that 1+4κ2v2m2−4κ2m2m22κ−−−−−−−−−−−−−√→1−2κ+4κ2v2m2−−−−−−−−−−−√\sqrt{1 + \frac{4 \kappa^2 v^2}{m^2} - \frac{4 \kappa^2 m^2}{m^2 2 \kappa} } \rightarrow \sqrt{1-2\kappa+ \frac{4 \kappa^2 v^2}{m^2}} .