Antiderivative Help: Solve x^2 (9-(x^2))^(1/2)

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To find the antiderivative of x^2(9 - x^2)^(1/2), a trigonometric substitution is recommended, specifically using x = 3sin(θ). This leads to dx = 3cos(θ)dθ and simplifies the integrand to sin²(θ)cos²(θ)dθ. While some alternatives like integration by parts or linear substitution were considered, they ultimately require trigonometric methods due to the presence of inverse sine in the antiderivative. The discussion emphasizes that traditional methods may not suffice for this problem, making trigonometric substitution necessary. Understanding these techniques is crucial for solving similar integrals effectively.
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can anyone help me find an antiderivative for (x^2)((9-(x^2))^(1/2))
 
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When you see \sqrt{1- x^2} or anything like that, you should think cos(x)=\sqrt{1- sin^2(x)}- and use a trig substitution.

In this problem, factor a "9" out of the squareroot to get 3x^2\sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}}. Now make the substitution x= 3sin(θ).

dx= 3cos(θ)dθ and \sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}} becomes \sqrt{1- sin^2(\theta)}= cos(\theta). The entire integrand becomes sin2(θ)cos2(θ)dθ. You will need to use trig substitutions to integrate that.
 
I think you may also be able to do it by parts if you let u=x and dv=the rest.
 
HallsofIvy said:
When you see \sqrt{1- x^2} or anything like that, you should think cos(x)=\sqrt{1- sin^2(x)}- and use a trig substitution.

In this problem, factor a "9" out of the squareroot to get 3x^2\sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}}. Now make the substitution x= 3sin(θ).

dx= 3cos(θ)dθ and \sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}} becomes \sqrt{1- sin^2(\theta)}= cos(\theta). The entire integrand becomes sin2(θ)cos2(θ)dθ. You will need to use trig substitutions to integrate that.

Thanks alot, i was really just wondering if it was possible to do with the scope of my year 12 specialist maths course, and it seems as i can't. As that substitution i am not familiar with and intergration by parts is not on the course, is there another way with only linear substitution, substitution by "u" or partial fractions?
 
There are a few different ways, you could use the + (a - a) method, by-parts and substitution. But at some point in all of them you are either going to have to make a trigonometric substitution or put it into standard form (which is also basically using a trig substitution but without the effort of workings). Quite simply because the anti derivative has inverse sine in it.
 
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