Antiderivative math homework help

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The integral ∫(2x^2+1)^7 presents challenges with substitution, as users suggest that expanding the polynomial may be necessary for easier integration. While some consider using trigonometric substitution, it is deemed more complex than simply expanding the expression. The binomial theorem is recommended as a method for expansion, although concerns arise about the feasibility of doing this manually. There is also a discussion on the appropriateness of using symbolic processors for assistance, with the consensus that while helpful, they may not be allowed during tests. Ultimately, expanding the polynomial is viewed as the most straightforward approach to solve the integral.
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Homework Statement



\int(2x^2+1)^7

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


u=2x^2+1
du=4xdx
u7 (1/4x)du
I am stuck... I don't know what to do next...
 
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Nope said:

Homework Statement



\int(2x^2+1)^7
Try to remember to put in the differential...
Nope said:

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


u=2x^2+1
du=4xdx
u7 (1/4x)du
I am stuck... I don't know what to do next...
Substitution won't work in this case, which you already found out. If you expand \int(2x^2+1)^7, you'll get a polynomial that you can integrate pretty easily.
 


wow, so i have to expand everything out? (2x^2+1)^7
that's a lot
is there any other way to do it?
 


The x2 suggests a trig substitution might work.

Edit: Actually, that looks to be more of a pain than just multiplying the polynomial out.

Hint: Use the binomial theorem.
 


Nope, I don't think so, at least no way that's not a lot more complicated.
 


Nope said:
wow, so i have to expand everything out? (2x^2+1)^7
that's a lot
is there any other way to do it?

Is using a symbolic processor cheating? From Maxima ...

ratsimp((2*x^2+1)^7);

128\,{x}^{14}+448\,{x}^{12}+672\,{x}^{10}+560\,{x}^{8}+280\,{x}^{6}+84\,{x}^{4}+14\,{x}^{2}+1
 


Probably not, but will you have one available during a test?
 


No , I don't think so.
 


It does help to know the "binomial theorem":

(a+ b)^n= \sum_{i=0}^n \begin{pmatrix}n \\ i\end{pmatrix}a^{i}b^{n-i}
 
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