Anyone got Graph for attenuation coefficient gold?

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The discussion centers on the search for a graph depicting the attenuation coefficient of Gold (Au) as a function of photon energy, specifically from approximately 10^-3 to 10^4 MeV. Participants are interested in understanding the types of interactions (such as incoherent, photoelectric, and Compton scattering) that occur at various energy levels, particularly in the context of comparing Gold to other elements like lead and iron.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a graph for the attenuation coefficient of Gold, noting difficulty in finding relevant data.
  • Another participant provides a link to a resource for the attenuation coefficient of Gold, but mentions it only covers up to 10^2 MeV and lacks details on interaction types.
  • Some participants suggest that the interaction regions for Gold and lead will be similar due to their close atomic numbers (Z=79 for Gold and Z=82 for lead).
  • There is a discussion about the K-edge shift and the idea that at certain energy levels, photons interact with the atomic structure in a way that may not exhibit significant chemical effects.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the provided information and shares a specific application regarding the use of gold nanoparticles in tumor treatments with MeV photons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the interaction regions for Gold and lead are likely similar due to their atomic numbers, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the attenuation coefficient graph for Gold or the detailed interactions at various energies.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the limitations of the available data, such as the lack of comprehensive graphs for Gold at higher energies or the specific types of interactions occurring at different energy levels.

Andrew Visioli
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Hello, does anyone have a graph for the attenuation coefficient of Gold (Au) (y-axis) with the respective types of interactions with photons of various energies usually from~10^-3 to 10^4 MV (x-axis) and where the incoherent, photoelectric, compton etc...interactions occur? Doing work on this and I can find for lead and Iron looked hard but cannot find for Gold. Many thanks for any help.
 
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e.bar.goum said:
However lead is Z=82, while gold is Z=79. The interaction regions are going to be very similar.
This is visible in the region below 100 MeV already:
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z79.html
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z82.html

The K-edge shifts notably, of course, but apart from that it looks like a simple (small) scaling difference between the two elements. The photon just sees a bunch of electrons, protons and neutrons at that energy (and partons at even higher energy), I would not expect weird chemistry effects any more.
 
mfb said:
This is visible in the region below 100 MeV already:
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z79.html
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z82.html

The K-edge shifts notably, of course, but apart from that it looks like a simple (small) scaling difference between the two elements. The photon just sees a bunch of electrons, protons and neutrons at that energy (and partons at even higher energy), I would not expect weird chemistry effects any more.

mfb said:
This is visible in the region below 100 MeV already:
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z79.html
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z82.html

The K-edge shifts notably, of course, but apart from that it looks like a simple (small) scaling difference between the two elements. The photon just sees a bunch of electrons, protons and neutrons at that energy (and partons at even higher energy), I would not expect weird chemistry effects any more.

mfb said:
This is visible in the region below 100 MeV already:
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z79.html
http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ElemTab/z82.html

The K-edge shifts notably, of course, but apart from that it looks like a simple (small) scaling difference between the two elements. The photon just sees a bunch of electrons, protons and neutrons at that energy (and partons at even higher energy), I would not expect weird chemistry effects any more.
Dear e.bar.goum, many thanks for your help. Yes in fact I got the graph for lead absorptions and used this as very similar given the similar atomic number, but many thanks for getting the graph for gold as very useful to me. I am trying to see if gold nanoparticles in tumours will increase the overall number of secondary electrons using MeV photons in vivo. Many thanks again andrew visioli
 

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