AP Calculus AB: Finding y with dy/dx = 2y^2 and given x=1, y=-1

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The problem involves solving a differential equation of the form dy/dx = 2y^2, with an initial condition given at x=1, y=-1, and seeks to find the value of y when x=2.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to start the problem and explore various methods, including rewriting the equation and integrating both sides. Some suggest separating variables and integrating, while others question the validity of their initial thoughts.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem. Some participants have offered guidance on how to manipulate the equation and integrate, while others are still grappling with the initial setup and understanding of the problem.

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Participants note that this type of problem has not appeared in their previous practice tests, indicating a potential gap in familiarity with the topic.

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If dy/dx = 2y^2 and if y=-1 when x=1
then when x=2, y=?

I have no idea how to even start this probelm, i never seen this on any previous practice tests
i thought about using the equation y+1 = dy/dx (x-1), but that's probably wrong and not going to help...
 
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MercuryRising said:
If dy/dx = 2y^2 and if y=-1 when x=1
then when x=2, y=?
I have no idea how to even start this probelm, i never seen this on any previous practice tests
i thought about using the equation y+1 = dy/dx (x-1), but that's probably wrong and not going to help...

Rewrite the equation as dy over y^2 equals 2dx integrate both sides then solve for the constant of integration by plugging in the initial condition and then you can find y when x = 2.
 
Here's a general rule for tackling these sorts of problems:

Suppose you have an equation of the form
\frac{dy}{dx} = f(y) g(x)

You can treat the differentials dy and dx as if they were any other variable, so you can bring f(y) and dy on the same side of the equation and move everything else over to the other side: (I forget the exact proof of this, it involves the definition of the differential and chain rule I believe):
\frac{dy}{f(y)} = g(x) dx

Then you can integrate both sides:
\int \frac{dy}{f(y)} = \int g(x) dx

And you'll get an expression which you should be able to solve for y(x) in terms of x and an arbitrary constant C. You can then use your boundary conditions to determine what C should be.
 
It's seperable (as dicerandom said)

MercuryRising said:
If dy/dx = 2y^2 and if y=-1 when x=1
then when x=2, y=?
I have no idea how to even start this probelm, i never seen this on any previous practice tests
i thought about using the equation y+1 = dy/dx (x-1), but that's probably wrong and not going to help...

\frac{dy}{dx}=2y^2\Rightarrow\int\frac{dy}{y^2}=\int 2dx\Rightarrow -\frac{1}{y}=2x+C
 
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ahh...i didnt know you can work both sides like that, thank you all very much :biggrin:
 

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