Application/Use of 200mV scale in voltmeter

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The discussion revolves around the applications and uses of the 200mV scale in voltmeters, exploring its relevance in various contexts such as control engineering, thermocouples, and practical measurements in electronics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the practicality of the 200mV scale, suggesting it may be too small for most applications.
  • Another participant cites a service manual indicating that many transducers in control engineering operate within the 0 - 200mV range, highlighting its significance.
  • A technical explanation is provided regarding the extension of the 200mV range using multiplier resistors, detailing calculations for measuring higher voltages while maintaining current levels.
  • Some participants agree that thermocouples generate voltages in the millivolt range, specifically mentioning Seebeck voltages as a relevant factor.
  • It is noted that the 200mV scale can also be utilized for measuring current flow by placing a resistor in parallel, with examples given for different resistor values and corresponding current readings.
  • One participant shares a practical application of the 200mV scale for verifying current flow along printed circuit board tracks and measuring voltage drops across questionable connections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the utility of the 200mV scale, with some acknowledging its importance in specific applications while others question its general applicability. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall necessity of the scale in various contexts.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the resistance of the meter and the configurations for extending the voltage range are not fully detailed, which may affect the applicability of the proposed methods.

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I was wondering what are the uses of 200mV scale in voltmeter? I mean isn't it too small for most applications? but it seems to me every meter has such small scale ,so I was wondering what is their actual usage?
 
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Here is an extract from the service manual for my gas boiler

Following proceedure 5 in the multimeter handbook minimum closed circuit voltage at thermocouple is 8 mV

The point is that many transducers in control engineering produce voltage in the 0 - 200mV range.
 
The 200 mV range in voltmeters can be extended by adding multiplier resistors in series with the meter.

You need to know the resistance of the meter, but suppose it was 100 K ohms. This would mean that when the meter is reading 200 mV, the current in the meter will be 2 microamps.

So, if you wanted the meter to measure 20 volts, the current would still need to be 2 microamps so, you would need a series resistor of 10 megohms minus the 100 K of the meter, so 9.9 megohms.

ie 20 volts / 0.000002 amps = 10 000 000 ohms.

If you wanted to measure 200 volts maximum, you could use a 100 Megohm resistor, but it would be better to just use the 9.9 Meg ohms resistor as above, but put a 11.11 k resistor across the meter.
This would take 18 μA when there was 200 mV across the meter, (200 mV / 11111 ohms = 18 μA), so the total current would be 20 μA. Then if you put 200 volts across the 9.9 Meg plus meter in series, the meter would read close to full scale which you could interpret as 200 volts.

Some meters let you move the decimal point so the reading makes more sense.
 
I agree with voltage generated by thermocouples, seebeck voltages I would say that's the cause
 
You can also use these meters as ammeters.

If you put a resistor in parallel with the meter, the meter will read full scale if the voltage across the resistor is 200 mV

So, if you put a 1 ohm resistor across the meter, the meter would read 200 mV if the current was 200 mA.
With a 0.1 ohm resistor, the meter would read 200 mV if the current through the resistor was 2 amps.

Meters that measure the voltage out of a thermocouple would normally be calibrated in units of temperature like °C or °F.
 
I get it now, Thank you so much, you guys are really helpful.
 
i use it to verify current flow along printed circuit board tracks, and to measure drop across bolted connections or soldered ones that look questionable..
 

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