Applied Force on Superimposed Blocks

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The problem involves two blocks, where a 1-kg block sits on top of a 10-kg block, with frictional forces between them and a frictionless floor. A 4-N force is applied to the top block, raising questions about the resulting accelerations and the role of friction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the interaction of the blocks under the applied force and the implications of static and kinetic friction. There is consideration of treating the blocks as a single system versus analyzing them individually. Questions arise about the necessary frictional forces to maintain the motion of the blocks relative to each other.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the frictional forces at play and their effects on the acceleration of the blocks. Some guidance has been provided regarding the calculations of frictional forces and the conditions under which the blocks move together.

Contextual Notes

Participants are examining the limits of static friction and the normal force between the blocks, as well as the implications of a frictionless floor on the system's dynamics.

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1-kg Block 1 sits on 10-kg Block 2. Friction between the blocks is 0.4 static, 0.3 kinetic while the floor is frictionless. A 4-N force is exerted on Block 1. What is the acceleration of Block 2?

I know Block 1 won't move relative to Block 2 since it is canceled out by the frictional force, and I know Block 2 will be propelled by a frictional force. However, I am not sure which frictional forces come into play.

One way I see this is to treat both Blocks as one object, so that a 4-N force accelerates the 11-kg system at 4/11 = 0.364 m/s2. However, I'm not sure how to emulate this through each individual block in the free body diagrams.
 

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The blocks can move together if the force of friction is enough to accelerate the bigger one. When the blocks do not move with respect to each other, the static friction acts between them. Check if the maximum static friction is greater than the force needed to accelerate the big block.

ehild
 
But since there is no friction on the floor, wouldn't applying any force accelerate the big block?
 
Peppino said:
But since there is no friction on the floor, wouldn't applying any force accelerate the big block?

Yes, but not with the same acceleration as that of the small block.
You calculated the common acceleration of the blocks. What force is needed to accelerate the big block with a=0.364 m/s2?

ehild
 
That would be 3.64 N, so there is a 3.64 N frictional force? Where would that come from?
 
The blocks interact with the force of friction between them. It acts against the applied force in case of the 1 kg mass and it acts forward in case of the big block and accelerates it.

The coefficient of static friction is μs=0.4. You know that the actual force Fs can not exceed μs times the normal force: Fs ≤μsN. What is the Normal force between the blocks and what is the maximum of the static friction?


ehild
 

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