Arcing in a parallel-plate air-filled capacitor

  • Thread starter Thread starter The_Lobster
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Capacitor
AI Thread Summary
Constant-charge capacitor microphones utilize a parallel-plate capacitor with one fixed and one movable plate, operating in a circuit that includes a series resistor and a DC polarizing voltage, typically between 48V and 200V. The distance between the plates is about 20 micrometers, leading to a theoretical arcing voltage of 60V based on the dielectric strength of dry air. This raises concerns about potential arcing when the microphone is powered on. Suggestions include exploring the use of inert gases to increase the arc-over voltage, as using a partial vacuum may hinder the movement of the flexible plate. Understanding these factors is crucial for the design and functionality of these microphones.
The_Lobster
Messages
28
Reaction score
0
I'm reading about constant-charge capacitor microphones, and they are essentially made up of a parallel-plate capacitor (one plate fixed, the other moving to sound pressure), in a circuit with a series resistor and DC source to provide polarising voltage.

The circuit is basically an RC filter, with a cut-off frequency down to 10-20Hz (so from f = 1/2piRC it requires a large R if C is small). The polarising voltage from the DC source is often around 48V, but can be as large as 200V for some microphones.

My question now is: The distance between the parallel plates in the capacitor is often around 20 micrometers. Now, if the dielectric strength of dry air is 3*10^6 V/m, there should be arcing at 3*10^6 V/m * 20 * 10^-6 m = 60 V. So from my theory it seems that most of these mics should arc due to the polarising voltage, just by turning them on! Clearly I must have a gap in my understanding some place?

Thanks!
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
The_Lobster said:
I'm reading about constant-charge capacitor microphones, and they are essentially made up of a parallel-plate capacitor (one plate fixed, the other moving to sound pressure), in a circuit with a series resistor and DC source to provide polarising voltage.

The circuit is basically an RC filter, with a cut-off frequency down to 10-20Hz (so from f = 1/2piRC it requires a large R if C is small). The polarising voltage from the DC source is often around 48V, but can be as large as 200V for some microphones.

My question now is: The distance between the parallel plates in the capacitor is often around 20 micrometers. Now, if the dielectric strength of dry air is 3*10^6 V/m, there should be arcing at 3*10^6 V/m * 20 * 10^-6 m = 60 V. So from my theory it seems that most of these mics should arc due to the polarising voltage, just by turning them on! Clearly I must have a gap in my understanding some place?

Thanks!

That's a good question! I don't think the inner space could be filled with partial vacuum (to take advantage of the Paschen curve) because that would inhibit the movement of the flexible plate. But what if it were filled with an inert gas? Would that raise the arc-over voltage enough?
 
Thread 'Weird near-field phenomenon I get in my EM simulation'
I recently made a basic simulation of wire antennas and I am not sure if the near field in my simulation is modeled correctly. One of the things that worry me is the fact that sometimes I see in my simulation "movements" in the near field that seems to be faster than the speed of wave propagation I defined (the speed of light in the simulation). Specifically I see "nodes" of low amplitude in the E field that are quickly "emitted" from the antenna and then slow down as they approach the far...
Hello dear reader, a brief introduction: Some 4 years ago someone started developing health related issues, apparently due to exposure to RF & ELF related frequencies and/or fields (Magnetic). This is currently becoming known as EHS. (Electromagnetic hypersensitivity is a claimed sensitivity to electromagnetic fields, to which adverse symptoms are attributed.) She experiences a deep burning sensation throughout her entire body, leaving her in pain and exhausted after a pulse has occurred...
Back
Top