Are women more beautiful than men

[chound]

Are women more beautiful than men? Or does it just seem like that to my adolescent mind?

 

[brewnog]

Of course they are.

Women are like fine sculptures, every curve is beautifully crafted for aesthetic purposes. Men are like fine robots, ugly as sin but a masterpiece of plumbing.

 

[dextercioby]

We ugly men,let's look at the bright side.Some women are ugly too...

Daniel.

EDIT:And ugly women end up with dumb (read "blind") men.

 

[kat]

well...when a man is in good shape, tight fit body...I think they are more beautiful then women...
I mean, really...just take the eyelashes...why it's always the men that are born with the thick full eyelashes that women have to use mascara to get?!

 

[Kerrie]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

 

[Icebreaker]

Well, that depends on which team you're playing for.

 

[dekoi]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

Is justice as well?

 

[Evo]

Women have more sexually attractive bodies. Most of the women I know agree that even though they are attracted to men, men's bodies are pretty plain.

Kat, I agree on the eyelash thing. The most attractive thing to me about a man are his eyes. The next thing is his hands, masculine hands with long fingers. <swoon>

I also don't like little girly noses on men.

 

[The_Professional]

men's bodies are pretty plain.

I don't think most women would agree after they see Brad Pitt in Troy

 

[Moonbear]

Women have more sexually attractive bodies. Most of the women I know agree that even though they are attracted to men, men's bodies are pretty plain.

I have to agree on this too. Well, men's bodies aren't plain, but they are more rugged than flashy. Women are the sleek sports cars and men are the 4WD pick-up trucks.

Kat, I agree on the eyelash thing. The most attractive thing to me about a man are his eyes. The next thing is his hands, masculine hands with long fingers. <swoon>

I also don't like little girly noses on men.

Eyes are important, but after that, it's shoulders for me. Nice broad shoulders. :!) And hands shouldn't be too soft...no library hands for me, a few callouses, and thick fingers will do.

 

[BoulderHead]

Are women more beautiful than men? Or does it just seem like that to my adolescent mind?

Both feminine and masculine beauty exist.

 

[The Bob]

Does it matter too much? It isn't just shapes that people like. Personality, hobbies etc.

The Bob (2004 )

 

[Grogs]

Bob:

I agree with you that there's more to a relationship than physical beauty. That said, I would conjecture that a rather sizable majority of relationships would never have happened if the two people weren't physically attracted to one another initially. Fortunately, different people have different standards of beauty, so one person's 'yuck' may be another person's 'OMG, what a hottie.'

 

[arildno]

Fortunately, different people have different standards of beauty, so one person's 'yuck' may be another person's 'OMG, what a hottie.'

Hope springs eternal..

 

[brewnog]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

No chicken, that should read "beerholder".

 

[spender]

Yeah ! after few beers I don't look for beauty I'm just horny .

 

[relskid]

women better looking than men? i don't really think so... well, maybe in their prime.

though, women age horribly.

 

[The Bob]

Bob:

I agree with you that there's more to a relationship than physical beauty. That said, I would conjecture that a rather sizable majority of relationships would never have happened if the two people weren't physically attracted to one another initially. Fortunately, different people have different standards of beauty, so one person's 'yuck' may be another person's 'OMG, what a hottie.'

It is a good point and to a point it is true. Somethings that is what it is or something it is something else.

The Bob (2004 ©)

 

[spender]

women better looking than men? i don't really think so... well, maybe in their prime.

though, women age horribly.

I agree with you and would like to add, that white women in particular from USA baloon horrendously after having first child.I don't see this pattern in Asian or even in white women from let's say France or meditteraean region.

 

[Kerrie]

women better looking than men? i don't really think so... well, maybe in their prime.

though, women age horribly.

sounds like you just have bad luck...there are many women who age gracefully.

 

[Kerrie]

I agree with you and would like to add, that white women in particular from USA baloon horrendously after having first child.I don't see this pattern in Asian or even in white women from let's say France or meditteraean region.

that's a stereotype, after two kids i still fit into my pre-pregnancy jeans.

 

[spender]

I lived in France and Germany and almost never saw so many obese women as in USA.The ones I saw must have been tourists from States or UK.
Something in food I guess.

 

[Moonbear]

Something in food I guess.

Not something in it, just too much of it. But it has nothing to do with pregnancy. That pregnancy weight melts off pretty quickly when breast feeding (most of my friends had the problem of getting too skinny because they couldn't eat enough to keep up with the energy demands of lactation). Those who don't lose the weight or gain more weight probably would have anyway.

 

[Smurf]

Women have more sexually attractive bodies.

I used to think that... then I wore a dress to school and realized I have more hip than most of the girls on campus.

 

[matthyaouw]

I used to think that... then I wore a dress to school and realized I have more hip than most of the girls on campus.

I'm sure this isn't the first time you've mentioned the dress today. You seem to relish the experiece a little too much. Is there something you're not telling us?

 

[FulhamFan3]

I don't even know why women even go with guys to begin with. I mean have you seen men? They're grotesque. That's why lesbianism is almost acceptable whereas a male gay couple is gross. It means not only do they reject women, they actually perfer the ugly male body. If you ask the average man if two woman kissing is a turn-on they'll say yes. If you ask a woman if two guys making out is a turn-on I'll bet they'll say it does the opposite.

 

[relskid]

sounds like you just have bad luck...there are many women who age gracefully.

i demand to know where you have seen such a sight!

call me straight, but i love men.

 

[Astronuc]

I would have to say that I find women more beautiful - but then I am a heterosexual male, so what do I know?

As for aging, it depends on the individual. I see many middle-aged parents (men and women) who are so over-weight its sad. I also know several people in their 50's and 60's, and I must say that the women tend to age better than the men. But it all comes down to diet/nutrition and excercise.

I also have to say that I know a few women who nearly 60 or in their early 60's, and they do look quite attractive. In fact, one looks in better shape than most teenage girls I see these days. Obesity in teenagers and young adults is a serious problem these days, and the adult population will have significant health problems in 30-50 years time.

Finally, I hope I don't get into trouble for this, but I venture to say that Evo will still look gorgeous when she is 65+.

 

[matthyaouw]

I don't even know why women even go with guys to begin with. I mean have you seen men? They're grotesque. That's why lesbianism is almost acceptable whereas a male gay couple is gross. It means not only do they reject women, they actually perfer the ugly male body. If you ask the average man if two woman kissing is a turn-on they'll say yes. If you ask a woman if two guys making out is a turn-on I'll bet they'll say it does the opposite.

I don't know where to begin disagreeing with you, So I'll start here:
Grotesque? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and despite your view of males, many people (both male and female) find men very attractive.

As for lesbianism being acceptable while male homosexuality being gross: Not true. Many find either both acceptable, or neither acceptable. If you are talking about the stereotypically male obsession with lesbianism, that is not to do with who is more attractive, but preferred sexuality. A heterosexual male will most likely not find two men together attractive, obviously. Elements of homophobia may come into it also. If a man is somewhat afraid of homosexuality being directed towards him, or afraid of any urges he himself may secretly have, the natural reaction to it will be shown as disgust.

As for gay and lesbian kissing: I wouldn't bet too much if I were you, as I know men who find lesbianism a turnoff, and many women who find men kissing a turn on. I disagree about the relative attractiveness of each gender being an issue here; it is due to individual sexual preference, rather than how attractive the individual is.

 

[Moonbear]

This thread is funny! Now we're arguing over which sex ages more gracefully?? Ha...I'll make it easy for you...neither! Men get bald, grow a gut, and have nasty hair growing out of their ears and noses. Women start to sag and get that hunchback look. Both get wrinkly, get arthritis, start to creak and groan as they move. This is of course why I just don't plan on getting old.

 

[plus]

If you ask the average man if two woman kissing is a turn-on they'll say yes. If you ask a woman if two guys making out is a turn-on I'll bet they'll say it does the opposite.

This is due to evolution not ashthetic beauty. Men seeing women turned on would be in a position to reproduce with one of them, or both due to the opportunity. Women seeing the same thing would not be interested in doing sex with a random man just because he was turned on.

I am a heterosexual male. I like looking at pretty women, and not men.
But... I have to say that I can see few evolutionary reasons for women being better looking than men, and more for men being better looking than women(such as more competition to find someone to impregnate). However, I am also surprised by the societal fact of women caring more about their appearance than men.

 

[Comboy]

Life is balanced, women like men and men like women. Their bodies are for the opposite sex. If a woman thinks that men are not good looking, she must be a lesbian and so on with a man.

 

[GCT]

Women are more beautiful then men...there's no doubt about that. Tis the main reason why men become so excited and irrational around women, cause they notice the great differences. Anyone who disagrees is confused and perhaps should consider devising a song which praises the "beauty of man."

 

[Comboy]

Women are more beautiful then men...there's no doubt about that. Tis the main reason why men become so excited and irrational around women, cause they notice the great differences. Anyone who disagrees is confused and perhaps should consider devising a song which praises the "beauty of man."

Ok, so it's the word "Beautiful" and "handsome" let's say "Good looking"
niether genders are better looking than the opposite

 

[hypatia]

I think the male body is beautiful, if like the female body, its taken care of. The statue of David comes to mind when I think of males and beauty. I also have a early morning runner in my neighborhood, he is also beyond handsom.

 

[honestrosewater]

Question for MB, or anyone else that knows: Who was doing the selection among humans, early humans, apes- male or female? Was there much sexual selection going on?

BTW, I think http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1558 is beautiful, but if you're looking for a good conversation...

Edit: Hah, that is too funny. Okay, here are http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1560 for Evo and MB. Can't find the brains...

 

[hypatia]

ok I'm off to take a cold shower now...{sighsssssss}

 

[honestrosewater]

Okay, I removed the rear view. Wouldn't want to keep the ladies or gents from getting any work done all day...

 

[Danger]

there are many women who age gracefully.

i demand to know where you have seen such a sight!

The famous ones that come to mind are Tina Turner, Dianne(sp?) Sawyer, Katey Sagal, Julie Andrews, Meryl Streep, Jolene Blalok (okay, Vulcans are different, but she looks pretty damned good for 65...)

 

[ramollari]

Question for MB, or anyone else that knows: Who was doing the selection among humans, early humans, apes- male or female? Was there much sexual selection going on?

Were the early female apes more beautiful than the male apes?

Which are more beautiful among birds: males or females?

 

[honestrosewater]

Were the early female apes more beautiful than the male apes?

Which are more beautiful among birds: males or females?

Hm, I don't think I've ever looked at apes that way before. Danger?
Birds are pretty much the only example I know of when it comes to sexual selection. Or maybe the only ones I can think of right now. But is it really safe to go backwards? If women are more beautiful, then males were the selectors? I'm not sure modern concepts of beauty are even applicable, I was just looking for someone to blame for the men.

 

[GCT]

Ok, so it's the word "Beautiful" and "handsome" let's say "Good looking"
niether genders are better looking than the opposite

Yeah, I suppose this is one way to go, I think that the "physical attractiveness" of a man is more defined. Such as where one refers to the statue of David, the physical features are more quite specific, rigid...defined. Nothing generally beautiful about it in the larger sense. I think that the ideal female body is to be more beautiful all over so as in one unified theme. No flaws whatsoever. And thus it is more fitting to call a female body "beautiful." Male...more "handsome", "powerful", "cut", defined.

 

[cronxeh]

This thread is funny! Now we're arguing over which sex ages more gracefully?? Ha...I'll make it easy for you...neither! Men get bald, grow a gut, and have nasty hair growing out of their ears and noses. Women start to sag and get that hunchback look. Both get wrinkly, get arthritis, start to creak and groan as they move. This is of course why I just don't plan on getting old.

i thought baldness was caused due to excess testosterone?

yea I think I just gave major kudos to all bald guys.. there is probably a crowd of horny women storming the hair transplant clinic right about now

 

[bjon-07]

quote "This is due to evolution not ashthetic beauty. Men seeing women turned on would be in a position to reproduce with one of them, or both due to the opportunity. Women seeing the same thing would not be interested in doing sex with a random man just because he was turned on"


men are turned on by girls kissing because they are basic.

Q: what's good?
A: one women
Q: what's better than that?
A: two women
Q: is there anything better than that?
Q: five women!

 

[gravenewworld]

Men age with grace far better than women. By the time a woman is 60 her boobs are already on the floor and needs to have 3 face lifts.

 

[Gale]

maybe we're all just a bit superficial about a woman's looks. if an older woman with sagging breats isn't beautiful... then what? surgery is beautiful? an older woman who doesn't look her age? women seem to be held to higher standards physically. i think it'd make sense if we then seem to be more 'beautiful.'

at any rate. i think men and women can look good or bad. i tend to be more picky about the women i find attractive. so meh.

 

[Danger]

Hm, I don't think I've ever looked at apes that way before. Danger?

Huh? Wha...? Why's everybody lookin' at me?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

As a male I find women to me more attractive. It would seem to me though that more women find the female figure to be aesthetically pleasing then there are men who find the male figure to be pleasing.

I don't get this idea that women have to have a perfect figure to be beautiful though. My last girlfriend had an underdevolped leg due to "fetal yoga" as she put it. I still found her to be emensly attractive though from the very first time I ever saw her.
Ofcourse this may have been because it would be harder for her to get away.

 

[Huckleberry]

Why must attractiveness be exclusively combined with any kind of desire for sex?

I look at the body of a healthy woman and I think it is beautiful and sexually desirable. Looking at the body of a healthy man and I still think it is beautiful. I think there is so much social conditioning that it shapes peoples beliefs from peer pressure.

Here's a story about my loving family. After leaving the military I was trying to get started in Phoenix, AZ. I was staying with my great uncle while I was looking for a job and saving up some money to get a place of my own. After a few weeks he told me I had to be out by the end of the month. He told me that it was because his brother was coming. His brother is my grandfather, and there was an extra room that they could have stayed in. I figured he has always been a bachelor and likes his solitude and maybe so many people visiting at once would make him feel uncomfortable.

So I had been working for almost three weeks and had maybe two paychecks. I had the tires on my car replaced and some work done and filled the gas tank. The rest I spent on a room for the week in a dive on Indian School road. I had almost no money for food. (I had, perhaps foolishly, spent almost all the money I had saved from the navy driving around the country for several months and living on friends couches, hotel rooms, and sometimes staying in my car at rest stops.) I still wondered why my great uncle (or 'not so great uncle' as I often refer to him now) had evicted me.

A week or two later I was visiting my aunt and uncle in southern Arizona and my uncle told me that my great uncle had said he believed I was gay and that was the reason he kicked me out. One time when my uncle was drunk (not a good move for a diabetic) he just asked me straight up "Are you gay?" I told him "No." But ofcourse the family rumor mill went crazy and gossip was flying around, but nobody else had the courage to ask me how I felt. That made me very uncomfortable. I went to confront my great uncle and he claimed he never said I was gay. I still had to deal with the silent accusations of my family.


I realized a few things about my family. I don't remember ever hugging my father. That sort of physical contact was never allowed. I was 8 or 9 years old and went with my parents to my father's mother's funeral. She had died of some kind of intestinal cancer. I went to give my grandfather a hug and he put out his hand for a handshake. I was taken aback by that. A 9 year old kid isn't allowed to hug his grandfather even at a funeral of a loved one.

I've dealt with the same thing throughout middle and high school. Because I don't exhibit the stereotypical attitude that men are expected to have for women in this culture there are mean people that make mean assumptions. I think its all bunk. So many people looking over there shoulders questioning everyone's sexuality to make sure everyone is the same so they can create a nice safe comfort zone for themselves. I don't think those kids actually believed I was gay; they were trying to reassure themselves and their peers of their own masculinity or femininity. Yes, some women will often accuse a man of being gay if she is upset because he doesn't find her attractive. It's all hateful. There are women who enjoy hurting a man they consider weak.

What is wrong with taking pleasure in hugging a friend that you haven't seen in a long time. When a friend smiles at me I feel good about myself and the smile is attractive. I find that the more I come to know and love someone the more attractive they appear to me. There is nothing more or less attractive in either a man or a woman's body. Men don't age more gracefully; women are just more accepting of men's appearance while both men and women are very critical of a woman's appearance. Sexual attraction is only a small part of what makes a person attractive.

Are people doomed to hate what they don't understand? Can we not truly think for ourselves? I think Kerrie said it best with her nice, short, direct reply "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

 

[zoobyshoe]

It's a basic trick quetion, really.