Asymptote of expected rotation curve velocities

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The discussion centers on the asymptotic behavior of expected rotation curve velocities in spiral galaxies, specifically addressing why the outermost stars, like those in NGC 3198, exhibit velocities around 40-50 km/s rather than decreasing to zero. This phenomenon is linked to the rotation curve problem in astrophysics, where observed rotation curves do not align with predictions based on visible matter alone. The concept of dark matter halos is introduced to explain the flattening of these curves at significant distances from the galaxy's center. The expected velocity curve decreases as the square root of the radius, leading to a slow approach towards zero, which clarifies the observed asymptotic behavior. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities of gravitational dynamics in galaxies and the implications of dark matter.
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Can someone tell me why the expected velocity of the outer most stars of spiral galaxies has an asymptote quite a bit greater than zero? For example NGC 3198 at a radius of 50 kpc appears to be reaching it's asymptote at about 40-50 km/s which seems illogical.
 
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This is part of the rotation curve problem in Astrophysics. The rotation curve of galaxies do not drop off as expected by applying known laws of gravity on the observable matter. Thus, there is hypothesis of "dark matter halos" that exist all around galaxies. This extra matter (which extends quite far out) can flatten out rotation curves to significant distances from the center of the galaxy.
 
Matterwave said:
This is part of the rotation curve problem in Astrophysics. The rotation curve of galaxies do not drop off as expected by applying known laws of gravity on the observable matter. Thus, there is hypothesis of "dark matter halos" that exist all around galaxies. This extra matter (which extends quite far out) can flatten out rotation curves to significant distances from the center of the galaxy.

I was actually referring to the expected velocity curve, not the observed velocity curve. For example if you look at the graph here:

http://w3.iihe.ac.be/icecube/3_Activities/1_WIMPs%20Analysis/fig1.bmp

It appears that the expected rotation curve has an asymptote at about 35-40 km/s
 
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Oh, well, that's because velocity only goes down as the square root of r at large distances (outside where luminous matter appear).

Out at very large distances, one could approximate the galaxy as a point source of gravity. In that case, for circular orbits:

v=\sqrt{\frac{GM}{r}}

As r goes up, v goes down, but only as a square root. This function is asymptotic to 0 as r goes to infinity, but is very slowly doing so. At distances that the graph has, the function doesn't approach zero quickly.
 
Matterwave said:
Oh, well, that's because velocity only goes down as the square root of r at large distances (outside where luminous matter appear).

Out at very large distances, one could approximate the galaxy as a point source of gravity. In that case, for circular orbits:

v=\sqrt{\frac{GM}{r}}

As r goes up, v goes down, but only as a square root. This function is asymptotic to 0 as r goes to infinity, but is very slowly doing so. At distances that the graph has, the function doesn't approach zero quickly.

Excellent! That was the answer I was looking for. Thank you!
 
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