Average value for the squared momentum in the harmonic oscillator

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Hi,

I'm trying to resolve a problem (17-2) of Pauling's book (Introduction to Quantum Mechanics ), but I'm not achieving this integration. So, I ask for your help. The problem says:

Calculate \overline{p_{z}²} (where p_{z} = momentum in z direction and \overline{x} = average value of x for example) for a harmonic oscillator (in cylindrical coordinates) in a state ( n',m,n_{z} ) represented by:

\Psi_{n',m,n_{z}}(\rho,\varphi,z) = N e^{im\varphi} e^{-\alpha\rho²/2 } F_{|m|,n'}(\sqrt{\alpha} \rho) e^{-\alpha_{z}z²/2} H_{nz} (\sqrt{\alpha_{z}} z)​

where:
N = const

\alpha = cost = 4\pi²*mass/h² * (freq_{0})

\alphaz = cost = 4\pi²*mass/h * (freq_{z})

H_{nz} = zn Hermite polynomial

F(k) = finite polynomial in k^{|m|} I think this polynomial don't have larger influence in the result.



Thenks in advance.
See you soon,

Davis​
 
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Well. I've gotten one sum of three integrals. Say:
1º \int^{\infty}_{-\infty} A e^{\alpha_{z}z²} H_{n_{z}}(\sqrt{\alpha_{z}} z) H_{n_{z}}(\sqrt{\alpha_{z}} z)(\alpha_{z}-\alpha_{z}²z²) dz

2º \int^{\infty}_{-\infty} -4n_{z}\alpha_{z}A e^{\alpha_{z}z²} z H_{n_{z}}(\sqrt{\alpha_{z}} z) H_{n-1}(\sqrt{\alpha_{z}} z) dz

3º \int^{\infty}_{-\infty} 2n_{z}(n_{z}-1) e^{\alpha_{z}z²} H_{n_{z}}(\sqrt{\alpha_{z}} z) H_{n_{z}-2}(\sqrt{\alpha_{z}} z) dz


In fact, I would like to know if I got this rightly and how can I resolve that.
 
Use the recurrence relations the Hermite polynomials satisfy to eliminate the factors of z, and then use the orthogonality of the polynomials to evaluate the integrals.
 
In this case, is it normal the average value for x and for p vanish?
 
What do you think? Is that what you'd expect physically?
 
To solve this, I first used the units to work out that a= m* a/m, i.e. t=z/λ. This would allow you to determine the time duration within an interval section by section and then add this to the previous ones to obtain the age of the respective layer. However, this would require a constant thickness per year for each interval. However, since this is most likely not the case, my next consideration was that the age must be the integral of a 1/λ(z) function, which I cannot model.
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