Balloon and Ballast: Find Max Height of Dropped Ballast

In summary, the conversation is about a problem involving a balloon ascending at a speed of 13 m/s and a ballast being dropped from the balloon at a height of 300 m. The question is whether the ballast immediately starts falling or if it continues to ascend for a short distance before falling. The answer is that while the balloon is ascending, everything in it is also ascending at the same velocity, so the ballast would continue to ascend for a short distance before gravity causes it to start falling. It is also mentioned that what someone sees or imagines may not always be accurate and it is important to rely on scientific principles when dealing with these types of problems.
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Homework Statement



A balloon is ascending at an speed of 13 m/s. At 300 m from the ground a ballast is drop from the balloon. Find the maximum height the ballast reach.

My doubt is: When the ballast is drop ¿it starts falling inmediately?. The solution of the problem implies that the ballast keep ascending for 8,6 m.

Thanks.
 
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carlitos_30 said:

Homework Statement



A balloon is ascending at an speed of 13 m/s. At 300 m from the ground a ballast is drop from the balloon. Find the maximum height the ballast reach.

My doubt is: When the ballast is drop ¿it starts falling inmediately?. The solution of the problem implies that the ballast keep ascending for 8,6 m.

Thanks.
While the balloon is ascending, everything in the balloon is ascending at the same velocity. It's no different if you pick up a rock and throw it straight up at 13 m/s.

It takes gravity a finite duration to arrest the upward motion and bring the velocity to zero, before things begin to fall back to the ground.
 
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SteamKing said:
While the balloon is ascending, everything in the balloon is ascending at the same velocity. It's no different if you pick up a rock and throw it straight up at 13 m/s.

It takes gravity a finite duration to arrest the upward motion and bring the velocity to zero, before things begin to fall back to the ground.

An observer in the ground would see the ballast fall inmediately, I mean he wouldn't see the ballast ascending for 8,6 meters. That's what I imagine. What's wrong with my imagination?
 
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What about a ball dropped from a car moving at 13 m/s?
If you're watching from the side of the road what speed will the ball be traveling as soon as it's dropped? Will it s stop where it lands? Or continue bouncing down the road?
 
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carlitos_30 said:
An observer in the ground would see the ballast fall inmediately, I mean he wouldn't see the ballast ascending for 8,6 meters. That's what I imagine. What's wrong with my imagination?
How do you know what someone else sees?

If you throw a rock straight up at 13 m/s, does the rock stop immediately once it leaves your hand and drop to the ground?

You can imagine many different things, some real, some impossible. We deal with science at PF, not your imagination.
 
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billy_joule said:
What about a ball dropped from a car moving at 13 m/s?
If you're watching from the side of the road what speed will the ball be traveling as soon as it's dropped? Will it s stop where it lands? Or continue bouncing down the road?
This is a great example. Thanks.
 
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SteamKing said:
How do you know what someone else sees?

If you throw a rock straight up at 13 m/s, does the rock stop immediately once it leaves your hand and drop to the ground?

You can imagine many different things, some real, some impossible. We deal with science at PF, not your imagination.

Sure not. The observer in the ground just can't note the ballast keep ascending because of the distance and he has no reference to compare the movement (the clouds are not good ones). An observer at the same level when the ballast is drop, would see the ballast ascending a little.
 
1.

What is the purpose of the Balloon and Ballast experiment?

The purpose of the Balloon and Ballast experiment is to determine the maximum height that can be reached by a dropped weight (ballast) when attached to a balloon. This can help scientists understand the principles of buoyancy and gravity.

2.

How does the experiment work?

The experiment involves filling a balloon with a known volume of air and attaching a weight (ballast) to it. The balloon is then released and the height at which the ballast drops is measured. This process is repeated with different amounts of air in the balloon to determine the maximum height reached by the ballast.

3.

What factors affect the maximum height of the dropped ballast?

The maximum height of the dropped ballast is affected by several factors, including the weight of the ballast, the volume of air in the balloon, and the atmospheric conditions such as air pressure and wind. The shape and size of the balloon can also have an impact on the experiment's results.

4.

What are the potential applications of this experiment?

The Balloon and Ballast experiment can have various applications in fields such as aeronautics, meteorology, and physics. It can help in understanding the behavior of objects in different atmospheric conditions, and can also be used to test the efficiency of different balloon designs.

5.

How can the results of this experiment be used to improve other technologies?

The results of this experiment can be used to improve the design and functionality of hot air balloons and other air-based transportation methods. It can also provide insights into the behavior of objects in different atmospheric conditions, which can be useful in developing new technologies for weather forecasting and atmospheric research.

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