Balloon neutral buoyancy + an interesting idea

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Achieving neutral buoyancy with a sounding balloon requires careful consideration of the weight-to-helium ratio for specific altitudes, such as 10km or 20km. An interesting idea proposed involves attaching a second, mostly empty balloon that could inflate after the first balloon bursts at 38km. The discussion raises questions about the second balloon's potential height and whether it can reach equilibrium, suggesting that there may be additional factors limiting its ascent. Technical details include the first balloon's launch diameter of 2.2 meters and a volume of 4.97 cubic meters of helium, with a bursting diameter of 13 meters at approximately 38km. The feasibility of using pressure valves to manage the balloon's ascent and prevent bursting is also highlighted.
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Hi,
I'm trying to achieve neutral buoyancy with a sounding balloon (a large latex balloon).
Is there a certain weight/helium ratio that will make it afloat at 10km/20km etc (tyhe balloon bursting altitude is ~38km)
One idea that I had was to attach another balloon, which is mostly empty.
When the 1st, full balloon, bursts at 38km, the 2nd balloon will already be inflated to some degree (can be calculated of course).
But, what happens now ? How heigh can this 2nd balloon climb ? Can IT reach equilibrium ? Isn't this the same problem, or above that height there is something else that will limit its climb ?

More technical data on the balloon:
Launch diameter: 2.2 meters, with 4.97 cubic meters of helium.
Bursting diameter: 13 meters, at ~38km.

Thanks.
 
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Hi Medula,
Your plan sounds feasible, but I always thought sounding balloons had a valve that opened when pressure inside exceeded a given value - that way they simply don't burst but just vent the gas when they hit a certain altitude. Similar ways of controlling volume using pressure valves or automatic valves might be employed as well, such as a solenoid valve that opens for so long then locks shut to allow the balloon to burst, or a valve that maintains pressure for so long, then opens completely to allow the package to return to Earth.
 
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