Basic Question about Relativity Reference Frame Shifts

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The discussion revolves around the concept of reference frames in relativity, specifically regarding the positions of two observers, S and S', where S is stationary and S' is moving. The key point is that while both observers agree on their time origin at t=0, the x origin of S' is shifted to the right relative to S due to S' moving with velocity u. The question raised concerns why S' experiences a point shift rather than a stretch in their x origin. The misunderstanding was clarified, leading to the realization that the x origin of S' continues to move further right as time progresses, aligning with the principles of relativity. This highlights the importance of understanding relative motion and its implications on spatial coordinates.
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I'm using Shankar's Introductory Physics course and I can't get a question out of my head regarding his setup of Relativity.

There are two observers, S and S'. Observer S is stationary, while Observer S' is sliding past S (to the right) with velocity u. They agree to set their origin of t=0 at the moment when Observer S' passes Observer S. Shankar states that while the two observers will agree on their time origin, the x origin of Observer S' will be shifted to the right relative to the x origin of Observer S, by virtue of the fact that Observer S' is moving.

My question is a very simple conceptual question. Why does the x origin of Observer S' experience a point shift due to its velocity? Wouldn't it make more sense for Observer S' to experience something more like a stretch, in which Observers S and S' agree on the starting point of the x origin (the x origin of S), but due to the velocity of S', the x origin of S' covers a stretch of distance in that span of time versus just a point?

For example, if I were on a train and someone were on the ground, and we agreed to press a stopwatch the moment we passed each other, intuitively I can't figure out why that would simply mean that I pressed my stopwatch at a distance 3 feet (just as an example) from where he pressed his stopwatch.

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The x origin of observer S' is moving relative to the x origin of observer S. While they align at time t=0, the x-origin of observer S' moves further and further to the right as time passes.
 
phyzguy said:
The x origin of observer S' is moving relative to the x origin of observer S. While they align at time t=0, the x-origin of observer S' moves further and further to the right as time passes.
Now I get it. I misunderstood how he presented the problem. Thank you!
 
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