Beginner's Guide to Precalculus, Calculus and Infinitesimals

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of precalculus, calculus, and infinitesimals, particularly focusing on the definitions and representations of infinitesimals in mathematical sequences. Participants are examining the clarity and accuracy of an article related to these topics, suggesting improvements and clarifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that using LaTeX for mathematical expressions would enhance the article's readability compared to plain text representations.
  • Another participant provides a detailed critique of the definition of infinitesimals, proposing the use of the symbol ##\epsilon## instead of X for clarity.
  • The critique includes a suggestion to redefine sequences using set notation for better precision.
  • Concerns are raised about the inequality "x < X," with a request for clearer definitions regarding sequences and their relationships to real numbers.
  • Questions are posed about the definition of absolute value for sequences and how it relates to the concept of infinitesimals.
  • There is uncertainty expressed regarding the necessity of discussing hyperrationals versus hyperreals, with a note that hyperrationals appear less commonly referenced in literature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions and representations of infinitesimals, with multiple viewpoints and suggestions for improvement being presented.

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Limitations include potential missing definitions, assumptions about mathematical notation, and the need for clearer explanations of sequences and their properties.

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A great improvement would be to use LaTeX in this article instead of things like Xn, x^2, and so on.
 
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Okay, guys, I got the message.

Valid point. It has been a long time since I used LaTex. It will take a while, but I will fix it.

Thanks
Bill
 
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bhobba said:
Infinitesimals
Let X be any positive number. Let x be the sequence xn = 1/n. Then, an N can be found such that 1/n < X for any n > N. Hence, by the definition of less than in hyperrational sequences; x < X. Such hyperrational sequences are called infinitesimal. A sequence, x, is infinitesimal if |x| < X for any positive X. If x > 0, x is called a positive infinitesimal. If x < 0, x is called a negative infinitesimal. Normally zero is the only number with that property. Also, we have infinitesimals smaller than other infinitesimals, e.g. 1/n^2 < 1/n, except when n = 1.

This is just a small section of your article that I took a close look at. I haven't looked closely at the other parts. Here are some comments about your work as well as ways that I would write this differently.

Instead of X I would use ##\epsilon##, which is typically used in many mathematics textbooks to denote a "reasonably small" but positive real number.

Instead of "Let x be the sequence xn = 1/n." I would define an identifier S like so, using set notation: Let S be the sequence ##\{x_n : x_n = \frac 1 n, n \in \mathbb N \}##

Your inequality "x < X" leaves a lot unstated and hurts my head to look at. Namely that a sequence x of numbers (which I'm calling S) is less than a single positive real number X (which I'm calling ##\epsilon##. I think you addressed this in another Insights article, but it would be good to also include it here. My version of this would be that ##S < \epsilon## means that all but a finite number of elements in S are less than ##\epsilon##.

You wrote: "A sequence, x, is infinitesimal if |x| < X"
You haven't defined the absolute value/norm of a sequence, or if you did, I missed it. If I have a sequence ##S = \{1/2, 1/3, 1/4, \dots, 1/n, \dots \}## and ##\epsilon = 0.01##, what's the value of |S| here? And how can I determine whether ##|S| < \epsilon##?

Last, I'm not sure that you need to talk about hyperrationals as opposed to hyperreals. All the number in my sequence are rationals, sure enough, but they are also reals. If I search for "hyperrational" on the internet, I don't get a lot of results.
 
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