Blackbody radiation frequency problem

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The problem involves understanding blackbody radiation, specifically relating to the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) at a temperature of 2.7 K. The questions focus on determining the wavelength and frequency at maximum intensity, as well as calculating the total power incident on Earth from this radiation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the wavelength and frequency using the Planck equations and question the interpretation of the total power incident on Earth. There is a consideration of whether to multiply the intensity by the area of the Earth or to assume a different area for the calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for wavelength and frequency, while others are exploring the implications of the intensity found and how it relates to the total power incident on Earth. There is an ongoing dialogue about the assumptions regarding the area used in calculations and the uniformity of the background radiation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the intensity of the CMBR is uniform across the sky, which affects how they consider the area for power calculations. There is also mention of the sensitivity of radio telescopes to small power levels, indicating the context of measurement challenges in this field.

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Homework Statement



The Cosmic microwave background radiation fits the Planck equations for a blackbody at 2.7 K. a) What is the wavelength at the maximum intensity of the spectrum of the background radiation ? b) What is the frequency of the radiation at the maximum? c) what is the total power incident on Earth from the background radiation

Homework Equations



lambda(max)*T=2.898*10^-3 m*K
T=2.7 K
f=c/lambda(max)
sigma=5.6703e-8 W/m^2*K^4

R=sigma*T^4 or

The Attempt at a Solution



a) lambda(max)= 2.898*10^-3 m*K/(2.7 K)=1.0733*10^-3 m
b)f=c/lambda=(3e8 m/s)/(1.0733*10^-3 m)= 2.795 *10^11 /s
c)R =sigma*T^4= (5.6703e-8 W/m^2*K^4)((2.7 K)^4=3.013e-6
 
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Benzoate said:

The Attempt at a Solution



a) lambda(max)= 2.898*10^-3 m*K/(2.7 K) = 1.0733*10^-3 m

Hence, the relatively new field of "mm-wave astronomy"...

b)f=c/lambda=(3e8 m/s)/(1.0733*10^-3 m) = 2.795 *10^11 /s

I imagine they like to use "Hz" (Hertz), rather than sec^(-1), so this would be 0.280 THz.

c)R =sigma*T^4= (5.6703e-8 W/m^2*K^4)((2.7 K)^4) = 3.013e-6

So this gives the intensity of the "CMBR" in W/m^2. They're asking for the total power incident upon (the top of the atmosphere of) Earth, so you have one more step.
 
dynamicsolo said:
Hence, the relatively new field of "mm-wave astronomy"...



I imagine they like to use "Hz" (Hertz), rather than sec^(-1), so this would be 0.280 THz.



So this gives the intensity of the "CMBR" in W/m^2. They're asking for the total power incident upon (the top of the atmosphere of) Earth, so you have one more step.

So now I have to multiply the intensity of the "CMBR" times the area of the Earth in order to calculate the power incident upon the atmosphere of the earth? Nah, that can't be right since the total power incident upon the atmospher is only the atmosphere of the Earth ad ot the whole earth. Should I assume the area of the surface of the atmospher incident on is 1 square meter?
 
Benzoate said:
So now I have to multiply the intensity of the "CMBR" times the area of the Earth in order to calculate the power incident upon the atmosphere of the earth? Nah, that can't be right since the total power incident upon the atmospher is only the atmosphere of the Earth ad ot the whole earth. Should I assume the area of the surface of the atmospher incident on is 1 square meter?

The intensity you found is what is seen from everywhere on the sky, since the background radiation is (very nearly) uniform, so that value is what reaches each square meter of Earth. (We generally state that as "incident at the top of the atmosphere" since the microwave radiation largely is absorbed by the atmosphere in those wavelength bands and doesn't get to the Earth's surface.) I believe the question is asking for the total power over the entire Earth to stress the fact that this is really a small level. (However, radio telescopes are extremely sensitive and detectors responds to very tiny power levels.)
 
dynamicsolo said:
The intensity you found is what is seen from everywhere on the sky, since the background radiation is (very nearly) uniform, so that value is what reaches each square meter of Earth. (We generally state that as "incident at the top of the atmosphere" since the microwave radiation largely is absorbed by the atmosphere in those wavelength bands and doesn't get to the Earth's surface.) I believe the question is asking for the total power over the entire Earth to stress the fact that this is really a small level. (However, radio telescopes are extremely sensitive and detectors responds to very tiny power levels.)

Show I should multiply the intensity coming towards the atmosphere times the area of the Earth
 
Benzoate said:
Show I should multiply the intensity coming towards the atmosphere times the area of the Earth

I believe that is what is being asked for. Upon reading the question again, I can see how it could seem unclear, but I'm pretty sure that's the value they're looking for.
 

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