Block Diagram Reduction - Control Systems Engineering

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The discussion focuses on determining the closed loop transfer function G1(s) in control systems engineering, specifically for a block diagram problem. The correct formulation is established as G1(s) = 4(s + 2) + 1, simplifying to G1(s) = 4s + 9. The derivation involves recognizing the output of the summing block as a function of the input, leading to the relationship Vout/Vin = 4s + 9. Participants clarify the algebraic manipulation necessary to arrive at this conclusion.

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Homework Statement


Determine the closed loop transfer functions of the systems shown below:

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Homework Equations


Standard block diagram algebra.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've moved the take off point such that the diagram now looks like:

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I am having difficulty determining G1(s). The solution given is

G1(s) = 4(s + 2) + 1 = 4s + 9

But it is not obvious to me where this is coming from. Taking G1(s) as given, I am able to solve the rest of the question without issue.

Any help appreciated.
 
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The question is a little confusing. The combination of the (s+2) and the gain 4 is clearly 4(s+2). Is that what you mean by G1? If you want to consolidate that loop (second diagram) including the summation block, it would be 4(s+2)+1.
 
MechEngJordan said:
G1(s) = 4(s + 2) + 1 = 4s + 9
But it is not obvious to me where this is coming from. Taking G1(s) as given, I am able to solve the rest of the question without issue.
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You have nothing to do than to write down the output of the summing block as a function of the input:
Vout=Vin + Vin*4*(s+2)=Vin(1+4(s+2)).
From this it follows Vout/Vin=4s+9
 

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