Boat crossing/Glide Ratio/Hydraulic design

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The discussion revolves around solving three mathematical problems related to glide ratios, boat crossing, and hydraulic design. The first question involves calculating the distance from a building to a runway, with corrections made to account for the plane clearing the building by 12 meters, leading to a final distance of 528 meters. The second question addresses a boat crossing a river with a current, where participants clarify the actual contact point on the far bank and the angle needed to cross directly, ultimately determining the angle to be approximately 31 degrees. The third question about designing a hydraulic holding system remains unresolved, with participants seeking guidance on calculating the required height of a reserve tank. The conversation highlights collaborative problem-solving and the application of trigonometry and physics principles.
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Ok I had these 3 questions: I believe I have ansered the first 2 but I' am just stuck on the third.
1. an aircraft has a glide ratio of 12 to1 m, a building that is 45m high lies directly in the glide path, the plane clears the building by 12m, how far is the run way from the building?
ANS: I just took the 12mx45m= to give me 540m i' am pretty sure this is right?

2.to cross a river that is 1km wide, with a current of 6km/hr, a boat that is perpendicular to the far bank, the boat speed is 10km/hr. at what position will the boat actually contact the far bank? what direction should the boat have to cross directly across?
ANS: here i made a right triangle and just used the 6^2 +10^2 = x^2, so he will actually contact the far bank at 11.6km away. 2part: since having figured out his actual contact point i figured the angle and by using the law of sines that it was 31.3 degrees
I think the first part is right, i' am not sure about the 2nd

3. design a hydraulic holding system for a hay-baling system, the system has four cylinders with a 120mm diameter pistons with a stroke of 0.320m, the lines connecting the system are 1cm id(inside diameter). there are 15.5m of lines in the system. for proper design, the reserve tank should hold a minimum of 50% more then the amount of hydraulic fluid in the system, if the diameter of the reserve tank is 30.48cm what is the shortest height it should be?

This question I' am completely stuck on, I have no idea were to start, any pointers would be great
 
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zeshkani1985 said:
Ok I had these 3 questions: I believe I have ansered the first 2 but I' am just stuck on the third.
1. an aircraft has a glide ratio of 12 to1 m, a building that is 45m high lies directly in the glide path, the plane clears the building by 12m, how far is the run way from the building?
ANS: I just took the 12mx45m= to give me 540m i' am pretty sure this is right?
Not quite. You missed the bit about the plane clearing the building by 12 ft.
 
rude man said:
Not quite. You missed the bit about the plane clearing the building by 12 ft.

so it would be 540m-12m = 528m ?
 
zeshkani1985 said:
Ok I had these 3 questions: I believe I have ansered the first 2 but I' am just stuck on the third.

2.to cross a river that is 1km wide, with a current of 6km/hr, a boat that is perpendicular to the far bank, the boat speed is 10km/hr. at what position will the boat actually contact the far bank? what direction should the boat have to cross directly across?
ANS: here i made a right triangle and just used the 6^2 +10^2 = x^2, so he will actually contact the far bank at 11.6km away. 2part: since having figured out his actual contact point i figured the angle and by using the law of sines that it was 31.3 degrees
I think the first part is right, i' am not sure about the 2nd

You mean, the faster he goes towards the other bank, the longer it would take him? Like, if his speed is 100 km/hr he would land 100^2 + 6^2 = x^2 below where he started? You know that can't be right.

Hint: he takes the same amount of time to reach the other shore no matter how fast the river is moving ... so how much time is that, and then how far below his starting point does the flowing river take him?
 
zeshkani1985 said:
so it would be 540m-12m = 528m ?

No. Doesn't it make sense that the higher he clears the building, the farther he has to fly before hitting the runway? Draw a picture ...
 
rude man said:
No. Doesn't it make sense that the higher he clears the building, the farther he has to fly before hitting the runway? Draw a picture ...

okay i think i got it, so the plane is acutally 12m above the building, if this is the case, then there is an extra 12m
 
rude man said:
You mean, the faster he goes towards the other bank, the longer it would take him? Like, if his speed is 100 km/hr he would land 100^2 + 6^2 = x^2 below where he started? You know that can't be right.

Hint: he takes the same amount of time to reach the other shore no matter how fast the river is moving ... so how much time is that, and then how far below his starting point does the flowing river take him?

okay since the boat velocity is at 10km/h, and the river at 6km/h
6km/h __
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10km/h|/ since there are 2 velocities, 102+62=11.6km/h that's the diagonal speed
so with this i can just divide the distance of 1km/10km/h =t to get time and multiply velocity by time to get the distance 11.6km/h x 0.1h= 1.16km is this right ?? for the first part
 
for the second part in question 2

can i just take the inverse of cos of the distance of the river/by the boat speed

cos=1/10=85 degrees
 
zeshkani1985 said:
okay since the boat velocity is at 10km/h, and the river at 6km/h
6km/h __
| /
10km/h|/ since there are 2 velocities, 102+62=11.6km/h that's the diagonal speed
so with this i can just divide the distance of 1km/10km/h =t to get time and multiply velocity by time to get the distance 11.6km/h x 0.1h= 1.16km is this right ?? for the first part

You have the total distance traveled right but the question really asks how far below the launching point does he arrive on the other side.
 
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rude man said:
You have the total distance traveled right but the question really asks how far below the launching point does he arrive on the other side.[/QUOT

1st thanks for the help

i think i got it can i just use the triangle theorm can't spell it A2+B2=C2
so A=√of 1.162-12

= 0.58km
 
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zeshkani1985 said:
for the second part in question 2

can i just take the inverse of cos of the distance of the river/by the boat speed

cos=1/10=85 degrees
No.

He'll point his boat at an angle θ from the straight-across direction. So write an equation giving the along-the-bank distance he travels in time T. You can set up a coordinate system fixed to the ground, with the river flowing in the -y direction and the distance along the river bottom = x. x = 1km and y = 0 would be the point directly across from his launch point, which would be x = y = 0.
 
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zeshkani1985 said:
rude man said:
You have the total distance traveled right but the question really asks how far below the launching point does he arrive on the other side.[/QUOT

1st thanks for the help

i think i got it can i just use the triangle theorm can't spell it A2+B2=C2
so A=√of 1.162-12

= 0.58km

Close enough to 0.6km I guess. You know t = 0.1 hr so 0.1 x 6 km/hr = 0.6 km.
 
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rude man said:
No.

He'll point his boat at an angle θ from the straight-across direction. So write an equation giving the along-the-bank distance he travels in time T. You can set up a coordinate system fixed to the ground, with the river flowing in the -y direction and the distance along the river bottom = x. x = 1km and y = 0 would be the point directly across from his launch point, which would be x = y = 0.


i just looked at the problem again and i set it up differently and i took the inverse tan
and I got a 5.7 degrees, but since this is just the angle, would you add the 180+5.7 to get 185.7 ?
 
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I don't know where you got the inverse tangent.

Set up as I suggested and write the distance equation for the y coordinate. You don't know T, the time of crossing, but you don't need to to answer part 2.

(The angle is between 0 and 90 degrees, that should be obvious. And it's bigger than 5.7 deg.)
 
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okay i did set it up how you said so here is my question, i' am just kind a really confused over it

i will be using sin, since i know the opposite and hypotenuse since the opposite it 6km/h for the hypotenuse do i use the 10km/h or the 11.6km/hr from the previous answer if i just use the 6/10 i get 36 degrees if i use the 6/11.6 i get 31 degrees
 
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i think i got it the angle should be 31 degrees i used this and back substituted it and found out that is had to b e 31 degrees.
 
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zeshkani1985 said:
i think i got it the angle should be 31 degrees i used this and back substituted it and found out that is had to b e 31 degrees.

What equation did you use to arrive at 31 deg? If you did as I suggested you first got an equation for the total y component of velocity of the boat wrt the ground (riverbottom). This equation includes the y component of the boat's intrinsic speed (speed on a quiet surface) plus the y speed of the river. You then multiplied this resultant y speed by time T to cross the river to get the final y position. You then set that final position to y = 0.

The y component of intrinsic boat speed is going to include the angle he points the boat to.

(My answer is close to one of your answers but it should be closer than it is, so please show your work.)
 
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okay here i did it again

since i know that his displacement was .60km due south and the river is 1km wide

so to balance it out he had to go .60km due north to cross directly and i took the inverse tan of .60km/1km to get 30.96 which is about 31 degrees

i think i might just give up
 
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