Boundary Conditions for an infinite rectangular pipe

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The discussion centers on the appropriate boundary conditions and axis assignments for modeling an infinite rectangular pipe. Participants clarify their axis definitions, agreeing that the pipe is infinite along the X-axis, with the Y-axis representing width and Z-axis being vertical. There is consensus that the problem can be treated as a 2-D Laplace equation, as the infinite length along the Z-axis makes it independent of that dimension. The voltage conditions are specified, with V on the Y-axis faces and 0 on the Z-axis faces. Overall, the focus is on ensuring correct boundary conditions and axis orientation before proceeding with the solution.
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Homework Statement
An infinite rectangular pipe with sides a, has two opposite sides at voltage V
(front and back) and at voltage V=0 (top and bottom).

Find the potential inside the pipe.
Relevant Equations
Fourier Sine Trick
Does setting up the problem symmetrically on this axis and the boundary conditions applied make sense? I don't believe I will have a problem solving for the potential inside, but i just want to make sure I have my B.C and axis correct before proceeding.

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Or should this be a 2-D lapace equation since the pipe is infinitely long, making this independent of the z axis?
 
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I'm a bit confused about how you are assigning the axes.
I'll call the left right axis X, the vertical axis Z and the lower left/ upper right axis in the picture Y. From that and the text description, I would say the pipe is infinite in the X axis and width a in the other two. The voltage is V on the faces normal to the Y axis and 0 on those normal to the Z axis.
 
haruspex said:
I'm a bit confused about how you are assigning the axes.
I'll call the left right axis X, the vertical axis Z and the lower left/ upper right axis in the picture Y. From that and the text description, I would say the pipe is infinite in the X axis and width a in the other two. The voltage is V on the faces normal to the Y axis and 0 on those normal to the Z axis.
Sorry I missed that. y is the vertical axis.z is the axis coming out of the page. X is horizontal.

But I think it should be independent of Z since it is infinitely long. It mirrors an example straight out my textbook.
 
quittingthecult said:
z is the axis coming out of the page.
quittingthecult said:
independent of Z since it is infinitely long.
Looking at the diagram, the infinitely long direction is horizontal.
 
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