Boundary conditions of 2 conductors

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The discussion revolves around solving the Laplace equation for two conductors at potential zero, with boundary conditions defined by their geometry. The user successfully separates variables in polar coordinates, yielding two ordinary differential equations for the potential function. They identify two boundary conditions but struggle to determine all constants, specifically c_2 and c_3, due to the limitations of the conditions provided. The user concludes that as r approaches infinity, the potential must vanish, leading to c_1 being zero, and they suspect that the potential behavior near r equals zero is crucial for further analysis. The conversation highlights the need for a Taylor Series approximation for small r, but the user encounters difficulties with logarithmic terms at zero.
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Homework Statement



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Ignore the text in German. You just need to see the picture. 2 conductors both with potential 0 are given. \alpha is the angle between the conductors. (r, \varphi) are polar coordinates pointing to a point in the plane.

Homework Equations



What we need to do is solve the Laplace equation:

Δ\phi = 0

for the boundary conditions which are implied by the picture.

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt at a solution was to separate the variables in polar coordinates:

\phi(r, \varphi) = R(r)\Psi(\varphi)

I think I did this correctly. It gives me the 2 ODEs:

R(r) = c_1 e^{k \cdot ln(r)} + c_2 e^{-k \cdot ln(r)}

\Psi(\varphi) = c_3 sin(k \varphi) + c_4 cos(k \varphi)



Now my problem is that I can only see 2 boundary conditions in the above picture:

\phi(r, 0) = 0 and \phi(r, \alpha) = 0

But this only gives me the constants c_4 and k. How do I get the other constants? Are there any more boundary conditions which I'm blind to see?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Should the potential blow up as ##r\rightarrow \infty##? What does this tell you about ##c_1##?

Sweeping out ##\varphi## takes you from one conducting plate to the other and both plates are grounded. What does that tell you about ##c_4##?
 
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I already did your second question. It tells me c_4 = 0.

The first one I didn't see however. The potential should disappear of course in infinity. This tells me c_1 = 0.

This would still leave me with 2 unknown constants however. c_2 and c_3

What about r → 0? Can I say that the potential has to disappear there as well? Probably not otherwise the entire R(r) term would be 0.

Hmmm ...
 
The next question would be to approximate the potential for small r. So from that question alone I'd say that it should depend on r? lol
 
I found out that another constant can be determined by the equation Δ (R(r) \Psi(\varphi)) = 0 itself. It gives c_3 = -1.

One constant remains though. So now I have:

\Phi(r, \varphi) = -C e^{-\frac{n \pi}{\alpha} \cdot ln(r)} sin(\frac{n \pi}{\alpha} \varphi)

Oh well ... Close enough I guess. :redface:

Could you help me with the approximation for little r? I guess it's supposed to be a Taylor Series approximation but if I want to develop around x_0 = 0 for the very first summand f(x_0) doesn't compute because of ln(0) ...
 
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