Boundary Value Problem + Green's Function

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The discussion revolves around a boundary value problem (BVP) involving a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by y'' + 4y = e^x, with specified boundary conditions y(0) = 0 and y'(1) = 0. Participants are exploring the concept of Green's functions in relation to this problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss solving the associated homogeneous problem and using variation of parameters for the particular solution. There is also a debate about the appropriateness of boundary conditions, with some questioning the use of y'(1) = 0. Others express confusion regarding the application of Green's functions, suggesting it may not apply to this single-variable context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering insights and suggestions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the general approach to solving the BVP, though there is no consensus on the interpretation of the boundary conditions or the relevance of Green's functions in this specific case.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves a single independent variable, which raises questions about the applicability of Green's functions typically associated with multi-variable problems. There is also mention of specific textbooks that may provide further insight into the topic.

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Boundary Value Problem + Green's Function
Consider the BVP

y''+4y=e^x
y(0)=0
y'(1)=0

Find the Green's function for this problem.



I am completely lost can someone help me out?
 
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I am no expert, this looks like just an ODE problem where you only have one independent variable x:

1) Solve the associate homogeneous problem [itex]y''+4y=0[/itex] which is a second degree DE with constant coef.

2) Then use variation of parameter to get the particular solution.

3) [tex]y=y_c + y_p[/tex]

4) Then use boundary condition to find the constant.

Just my 2 cents
 
yea but for a boundary condition should you have y(0) = c1 & y(t) = c2 , instead of y'(t) = c2
 
benronan said:
yea but for a boundary condition should you have y(0) = c1 & y(t) = c2 , instead of y'(t) = c2

I have not work through the problem, I am studying Green's function and that's the reason I look at this post.

I don't see from [itex]y''+4y=e^x[/tex] that it is even multi variables. Only independent variable is x. From my understanding, Green's function only deal with multi-variables. This is a simple 2nd degree non-homogeneous ODE with constant coef. with boundary condition.[/itex]
 
Hi. I'm not very familiar with Green's functions, but let me suggest a direction I think you need to go:

Consider the linear differential equation (of one variable):

[tex]Ly=f[/tex]

where the L is the differential operator like in your case, it's [itex]L=\frac{d^2}{dx^2}+4[/itex]. Then we can show the solution can be written in terms of a Green's function as:

[tex]y(x)=\int G(x,u)f(u)du[/tex]

where:

[tex]G(x,u)=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{\phi_n(x)\phi_n^{*}(u)}{\lambda_n}[/tex]

where [itex]\phi_n[/itex] is a orthonormal set of eigenfunctions for the operator L, that is, normalized solutions to the equation:

[tex]y''+4y=\lambda_n y[/tex]

subject to the given boundary conditions. So, just need to find those huh? Also, keep in mind the conjugate ([itex]\phi^{*}[/itex]) of a real-valued function is just the function.

See: "Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics" by F. Byron and R. Fuller. Whole chapter on Green's functions.
 
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I suggest taking a look at "Mathematical Physics" by Hassani or alternatively "Mathematical Methods for Physicists" by Arfken. Both have well developed sections on the use of Green's functions in solving ODEs.
 

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