Box on a Board: Finding Minimum Pulling Force

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The discussion focuses on determining the minimum force required to pull a board out from under a box resting on it, with considerations of static friction. The maximum static friction occurs when the box transitions from rest to motion, which is critical for calculating the necessary pulling force. Participants clarify that the coefficient of static friction should not be less than μs and emphasize the importance of drawing a free body diagram (FBD) to analyze the forces acting on the box. The conversation highlights the need to express the solution in terms of the given variables, including mass, acceleration, and friction coefficients. Understanding these concepts is essential for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



A small box of mass m1 is sitting on a board of mass m2 and length L. The board rests on a frictionless horizontal surface. The coefficient of static friction between the board and the box is, as usual, less than μs. The board is pulled with a force F, as shown. We wish to know the minimum force necessary to pull the board out from under the box. Express your answers in terms of any of the variables F, L, μs,g, m1 and m2.

Find the acceleration of the board when the force of static friction reaches its maximum possible value.

What is the requirement for the board starting to slide under the box?

Homework Equations



F=ma



The Attempt at a Solution



I already solved the largest possible acceleration of the box, which is
F=(m1+m2)a up until m1 falls. I do not actually understand how I can find the maximum possible value. This is probably when the acceleration is the largest I guess?.. Can anybody help me out with these two questions please! Thank you in advance
 
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hvthvt said:
The coefficient of static friction between the board and the box is, as usual, less than μs.
No, that coefficient is usually written μs. It would not be less than μs. Do you mean the coefficient of kinetic friction?
The board is pulled with a force F, as shown. We wish to know the minimum force necessary to pull the board out from under the box.
What did you get for that?
I already solved the largest possible acceleration of the box, which is F=(m1+m2)a
That is not right. F is unlimited, so it would make a unlimited.
Draw a FBD diagram for the box. What are the forces on it?
 
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