Bullet collision question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy loss during a bullet collision and understanding the relationship between kinetic energy and Newton's laws of collision. The initial calculations yield a relative velocity of 1000 m/s and a total energy loss of 1000 J for two bullets. Participants clarify the coefficient of restitution, emphasizing that it measures the ratio of speeds after and before the collision, and discuss the complexities of applying Newton's laws in this context. The conversation highlights the need to consider the geometry of the impact and the angles involved for accurate calculations. A correct treatment requires resolving velocities in directions parallel and normal to the impact line.
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Two bullets of mass 20 g move with same speed opposite to each other. At time, t=0 the bullets are flying towards each other with a separation of 20 m. At t=0.02 s, The bullets graze each other and both deflect through an angle of 6°. The only form of energy dissipation is in the form of heat which increases the temperature in the bullets by 50 °C. If the specific heat of each bullet is 500 J/kg K, then determine the value of coefficient of restitution.
Relevant Equations
Law Of Conservation Of Mechanical Energy
Specific Heat Capacity Equation
Newton's Law Of Collision
My attempt:

Relative velocity, v = s/t = 20/0.02 = 1000 m/s
Velocity of each bullet, u=v/2 =500 m/s

Now we have to find loss in energy,
We know, Q=mcΔT =(20/1000)(500)(50) = 500 J per bullet
Total energy loss= 2(500) = 1000 J

Now, I know that in the next step, we have to somehow correlate kinetic energy with Newton's law of collision but I don't get how to do it. Can someone please help?
 
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Do you have a definition of the coefficient of restitution?
 
nasu said:
Do you have a definition of the coefficient of restitution?
Usually it's the ratio of speed after to speed before.
 
imas_ said:
Relevant Equations: Law Of Conservation Of Mechanical Energy
Mechanical energy is conserved only if the collision is perfectly elastic. There is no change in temperature.
imas_ said:
Newton's Law Of Collision
Is that the same thing as conservation of momentum?
 
Herman Trivilino said:
Is that the same thing as conservation of momentum?
Or maybe Newton's 3rd law?
 
Herman Trivilino said:
Usually it's the ratio of speed after to speed before.
Not quite, and this makes the question quite tricky. It is (minus) the ratio of the relative velocity components normal to the plane of contact.
It is possible the author intends some simplification based on the smallness of the deflection, but for a correct treatment we need to take the bullets as spheres and consider the geometry at the moment of impact.
Let the plane of contact make an angle ##\alpha## to the line of their original velocities. Resolve the incoming velocities in directions parallel to and normal to that line. Velocities parallel to it do not change. Write the equation for how the velocities normal to it change, given the coefficient of restitution. Then write the equation for the angle of departure.
You should get a quadratic in ##\tan(\alpha)##.
Since ##\alpha<6°##, maybe we can ignore the quadratic term.
 
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Herman Trivilino said:
Usually it's the ratio of speed after to speed before.
The question was for the OP.
 
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