Calculate electric field at position x given ρ and thickness d?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field at specific points within two stacked charged slabs using Gauss's law. The slabs have a thickness of 0.2 μm and charge densities of -ρ and +ρ, where ρ = 8×10−3 C/cm3. The electric field outside the slabs is determined to be zero, while the electric field inside is calculated using the equation E(in) = pd/e0 - E(out). The participants clarify the need to convert charge density to standard units (C/m3) to achieve the correct electric field values, which leads to a factor of 10^6 in the final calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the Gaussian surface and the relationship between thickness and position for accurate results.
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Calculate electric field at position x given ρ and thickness d??

Homework Statement


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Two large uniformly charged slabs, I and II, are stacked together as shown in the picture. Suppose the thickness of each slab is d= 0.2 μm. The volume charge densities in the negatively charged slab (I) and the positively charged slab (II) are −ρ and +ρ, respectively, with ρ = 8×10−3 C/cm3. The origin of the x-axis (i.e., x = 0) is at the interface of the two slabs. Suppose the slabs extend to infinity in the y and z-directions.

Using Gauss' law, the electric field outside of the two slabs region is: 0 N/C (this answer i got rite: E=pD/2e0 - pD/2e0= 0N/C

Apply Gauss' law to slab I to find the strength of the electric field at point A at position x=-0.199 μm?
Apply Gauss' law to slab II to find the strength of the electric field at point B at position x=0.101 μm?


Homework Equations


E (outside) = += pD/2e0 where e0=9x10^-12

E(inside)=pd/e0-E(outside) - not sure about this equation i derived


The Attempt at a Solution



E(inside) at point A = pd/e0-(-pd/2e0)= 3pd/2e0
still not sure how to find d (it's different from D, i think.)

plaese help me with this. i hav a quiz on this tomorrow >.>
 
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asdf12312 said:
E(inside) at point A = pd/e0-(-pd/2e0)= 3pd/2e0
still not sure how to find d (it's different from D, i think.)
Not quite sure what you're doing here. Just apply Gauss's law. What would be your Gaussian surface? (You've correctly found that the field outside the slabs is zero.)
 


gauss's law stats flux of a field is integral of EdA, or Q(in)/e0, which is what my teacher said.

in calculating the electric field inside the surface, according to my notes flux=EA+E(in)A, and enclosed charges are Q(in)=pV'=pAd

i equated gaussian surface eq. with this one:
Q(in)/e0=EA+E(in)*A
pAd/e0=EA+E(in)*A
E(in)*A=(pAd/e0)-EA
E(in)=(pd/e0)-E(out)

found that E(out) of the left slab is equal to pD/2e0 so:
E(in)=pd/e0-(pd/2e0)
E(in)=3pd/2e0

this is how i derived the equation but i hav a feeling idid it all wrong :(
 


asdf12312 said:
i equated gaussian surface eq. with this one:
Q(in)/e0=EA+E(in)*A
pAd/e0=EA+E(in)*A
OK, assuming one side is outside the slab and the other is at the point of interest.

So what does EA equal? I assume this is for the surface outside the slab.
E(in)*A=(pAd/e0)-EA
E(in)=(pd/e0)-E(out)
So far, so good.

found that E(out) of the left slab is equal to pD/2e0 so:
You already determined that the field outside is zero. Use that fact.
 


well i mean the field outside both slabs is zero, but is that the same as the field outside the left slab? so that leaves pd/e0.

alright, but how do i find d now? i am guessing it's not the same as in the problem but even if it is:
(8*10^-3)(2*10^-7)/(9*10^-12)=177.77 N/C

Doc Al said:
OK, assuming one side is outside the slab and the other is at the point of interest.

So what does EA equal? I assume this is for the surface outside the slab.

So far, so good.You already determined that the field outside is zero. Use that fact.
 


asdf12312 said:
well i mean the field outside both slabs is zero, but is that the same as the field outside the left slab?
Sure.
so that leaves pd/e0.
Right.
alright, but how do i find d now?
The thickness of your Gaussian region is the distance between the edge of the slab and the point A. You are given all that you need to calculate that distance.
 


ok, that's what i thought.

d-x= 0.2 μm-0.199 μm = 1x10^-9 m

this is rite?

Doc Al said:
OK, assuming one side is outside the slab and the other is at the point of interest.

So what does EA equal? I assume this is for the surface outside the slab.

So far, so good.You already determined that the field outside is zero. Use that fact.
 


asdf12312 said:
ok, that's what i thought.

d-x= 0.2 μm-0.199 μm = 1x10^-9 m

this is rite?
Yes, that is right.
 


ok can you help me with 1 last thing? the answer is given as 9.05×10^5 N/C for x=-0.199 μm

i did (8*10^-3 C/cm3)(1*10^-9m)/(9x10^-12) and got 0.88 N/C. and i figured out to get the correct answer i need to multiply my answer by 10^6 (this is same for part 2 also), any idea why this is?
 
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asdf12312 said:
i did (8*10^-3 C/cm3)(1*10^-9m)/(9x10^-12) and got 0.88 N/C. and i figured out to get the correct answer i need to multiply my answer by 10^6 (this is same for part 2 also), any idea why this is?
You need to convert the charge density to standard units, C/m3. That will give you a factor of 10^6.
 
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