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To calculate the likelihood of five stacked pallets shifting during a turn, the key equations involve friction and centripetal acceleration. The user is advised to conduct an experiment by gradually tipping the stack to determine the angle at which slipping occurs, which will help establish the coefficient of friction. The total weight of the pallets and freight, along with their speed of 6 mph, must be factored into the calculations. A safety factor of two to three times the calculated force is recommended to ensure stability. This approach will provide a clearer understanding of the forces at play during the turn.
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Hey all
Im trying to figure out the equation(s) to calculate the likely hood of an object that is traveling, moving when the travel path turns. I can figure out the f=mxa easily enough, but i need to take friction into account and the force experienced during the turn. Essentially I need to know the likely hood of 5 pallets stacked on top of each other shifting during a turn. Each pallet weighs 40 lbs. they are stacked on top of each other (friction), and they are traveling at no more than 6 mph. There is on average 100 lbs on the top of the stacked pallets. I cannot figure out which calculations I need to determine the likely hood or the force needed to shift the pallets in any way. Can anyone help? Thanks, djt
 
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DJTauch said:
Hey all
Im trying to figure out the equation(s) to calculate the likely hood of an object that is traveling, moving when the travel path turns. I can figure out the f=mxa easily enough, but i need to take friction into account and the force experienced during the turn. Essentially I need to know the likely hood of 5 pallets stacked on top of each other shifting during a turn. Each pallet weighs 40 lbs. they are stacked on top of each other (friction), and they are traveling at no more than 6 mph. There is on average 100 lbs on the top of the stacked pallets. I cannot figure out which calculations I need to determine the likely hood or the force needed to shift the pallets in any way. Can anyone help? Thanks, djt
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

What is the 100 pound object? There is an experiment that would help a lot in this, as long as it is safe to do. Can you take that stack of 5 pallets plus the 100 pound whatever on top, and slowly tip the bottom pallet to the side? You want to record the angle of the pallets versus the horizontal just at the point where something starts to slip (pallet-to-pallet, or 100 pound load on top off the top pallet). That will give you an idea of what your coefficient of friction is, which you would combine with the equations for centripetal acceleration to give you the answer you are looking for.
 
BTW, whatever number you come up with via the calculations, you are going to want to multiply by a pretty good safety factor like x2 or x3...
 
berkeman said:
BTW, whatever number you come up with via the calculations, you are going to want to multiply by a pretty good safety factor like x2 or x3...
The 100 lbs is basically boxes. Cases of freight. The freight is on average 100 lbs but varies in size and weight individually. I will attempt the experiment, as that does seem like a very good way to calculate the friction. Thanks for the reply
 

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