Calculate Jet Engine Net Thrust (F(N))

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The discussion centers on the calculation of net thrust (F(N)) for jet engines, using the equation F(N) = m dot (air) + m dot (j) V(j) - m dot (air) V. Participants explore the derivation of this equation, linking it to principles of momentum and force. There is debate over the correct formulation, with some suggesting adjustments based on the initial and final velocities of air and fuel. The impact of fuel mass flow and drag on net thrust is also highlighted, emphasizing that fuel effects may be neglected in some calculations. Overall, the conversation delves into the complexities of thrust calculations and the assumptions involved in deriving the equations.
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I was given some notes on aircraft performance that states the equation for finding the net thrust of a jet engine.

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It states (words in brackets are subscripts):

F(N) = m dot (air) + m dot (j) V(j) - m dot (air) V

F(N) = net thrust
m dot (air) = inlet mass flow
m dot (j) = fuel mass flow
V(j) = final velocity
V = initial velocity
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How is this equation obtained?

I know that Force = change in momentum / change in time
 
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v_pino said:
F(N) = m dot (air) + m dot (j) V(j) - m dot (air) V
I think this should be:

F(N) = (m dot (air) + m dot (j)) V(j) - m dot (air) V

This is obtained as follows (assumes average accelartion, ..., you'd really need to take the integral sum of all the affected components):

force = mass x acceleration = mass x (Vout-Vin)/(unit time) = (mass/(unit time)) x (Vout - Vin)
 
Hi Jeff,

If I use F=ma, should I not get this:

( m dot (air) + m dot (j) ) ( V (j) - V )

thanks
 
This is the way the formula is written in my book;
Gross Thrust (Static) F (gross) = m dot (V2-V1)
V2-V1 Final velocity – initial velocity.
F (net) = F (gross) – F (Drag)
F (Drag) is the ram drag or inlet momentum drag caused by forward speed effect. If engine is not moving forward F (net) = F (gross).
Adding fuel: F (net) = m dot (V2-V1) + m dot fuel V (f)
Note: fuel inlet velocity will be same as engine so no initial velocity. Some formulas do not include fuel flow effects because the effects of air leakage are approximately the same as fuel flow effects.

The fuel is added to mass air flow – if used.

Most nozzles are chocked and there is a formula for that I can give you if you are interested.
 
It's simple...draw a control volume around an engine. The net force is the sum of all of the outgoing momentum minus the incoming momentum.
 
v_pino said:
If I use F=ma, should I not get this:
( m dot (air) + m dot (j) ) ( V (j) - V )
Not quite, the initial fuel velocity is different than the initial air velocity. Using the plane as a frame of reference, the initial fuel velocity is zero:

Jeff Reid said:
force = mass x acceleration = mass x (Vout-Vin)/(unit time) = (mass/(unit time)) x (Vout - Vin)

F = mass x acceleration
F = (mass (air))(Vout - Vin)/(unit time) + (mass fuel (j))(Vout - 0)/(unit time)
let m dot = mass / (unit time)
F = ( m dot (air) ) ( Vout - Vin) + ( m dot (fuel) ) ( Vout - 0)
 
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