Calculate Moment: 2.5kN Force about Point C

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of a 2.5 kN force exerted by connecting rod AB about point C. Participants analyze the force components using both vector and scalar approaches, with initial calculations yielding a moment of -61.5 kN mm. There is confusion regarding the angle of the force, with one participant asserting it is 16.3° with respect to vertical, while another calculated it as 73.7° with respect to horizontal. Clarifications are sought on the correct interpretation of the force components and their application in determining the moment about point C. Accurate calculation of the moment requires proper identification of force components and their relation to the geometry of the system.
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1. It is known that the connecting rod AB exerts on the crank BC a 2.5kN force directed down and to the left along the center line of AB. Determine the moment of that force about C.

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I found the angle using tan-1 = 144/42 = 73.7

Fx = -2.5cos73.7 = -0.702
Fy = -2.5sin73.7 = -2.40

F = (-0.702i -2.40j + 0k)
CB = (-42i -56j + 0k)


F x CB= (-0.702i -2.40j + 0k) x (-42i -56j + 0k)
= -61.5 kN mm

does that seem right??

 
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that first was the vector approach but a scalar approach is


y and x compents then multiply by distance and just add them

Fx = 2.5 x cos 73.7 = 0.702
Fy = 2.5 x sin 73.7 = 2.40

Clockwise = -
Counterclockwise = +

Mx = -0.702 x 56
My = 2.40 x 42

M = Mx + My = 61.5 kN mm


can someone make sure I am interpreting the question accurately ! :)

thanks!
 
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I found the angle using tan-1 = 144/42 = 73.7

Fx = -2.5cos73.7 = -0.702
Fy = -2.5sin73.7 = -2.40
I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but 73.7° is the angle of arm AB with respect to horizontal. Are you sure. The 2.5 kN acts through AB at angle of 16.3° with respect to vertical.

To find the moment on BC, one wants the force component from AB normal to BC.
 
hmmm huh? so what i did was wrong?...

even if i use 16.3 basically the y component of the force AB is going to be

-2.5cos16.3= which is what i found -2.40
and x component
-2.5sin16.3= -0.702

these are the components of AB if i want moment about C i can take a vector from C to B and cross it with AB right?

AB x CB = 61.5 kN mm
 
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can someone atleast explain properly what I am doing wrong if I am doing anything wrong...
 
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