Calculate the electric potential

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The discussion revolves around calculating electric potential in a spherical conductor with an inner cavity containing a point charge. It is established that inside the cavity, the electric potential can be calculated using V=Kq/r, where r is the distance from the point charge. Between the inner radius (r1) and outer radius (r2), the electric field is zero, indicating that the potential remains constant. The participants clarify that potential can be defined with an arbitrary constant, typically set to zero at infinity. Ultimately, the correct approach involves calculating potential for regions outside the sphere first, then maintaining a constant potential down to r1 before applying the formula for r < r1.
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its not a statement but i was wondering: I'm studying the electric potential and when we have a sphere with inner radious r1 and outer radious r2 that has a charge let's say +Q with a cavity and there is a point charge q inside this cavity so the inner surface will have -q and the outer will have Q+q


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if i want to calculate the electric potential in the cavity and in the sphere between r2 and r1 and outside and on r1 and r2?



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i think that inside there will be an electric field so V=Kq/r where r is the distance from q
and between r1 and r2 E=0 so the difference must be zero and since there is no charges moving here we will say that through r2>r>r1 the same but how do i calculate it
 
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Nickclark said:
i think that inside there will be an electric field so V=Kq/r where r is the distance from q
and between r1 and r2 E=0 so the difference must be zero and since there is no charges moving here we will say that through r2>r>r1 the same but how do i calculate it

As you say, inside a conductor E is zero, so the electric potential is constant, and has the value at r1 that you get from the r ≤ r1 equation. :wink:
 


Thanks, but what is its value?
is it V=Kq\r1 through r1<r<r2 or is it V=kq/r2
because if i considered the potential being the integral from a to b for E.dl where b is at infinity so Vb wil be zero then i will get Va:
a) at distance r1 it will be Kq/r1
b) at distance r2 it will be k(q+Q)/r2
but that is wrong because the potential must be constant!
which is why I'm confused
 
ah, good point …

we can add an arbitrary constant to the potential everywhere, so we have to make an arbitrary choice where the zero potential is …

your choice of zero potential at infinity is a lot more sensible than mine! :redface:

so yes, do r > r2 first, then keep the potential constant down to r1, then lower it in step with the r < r1 formula :smile:
 


Oh OK! Got it, Thanks
 
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