Calculate the new angular velocity of the disc

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The problem involves calculating the new angular velocity of a disc when a person walks from the edge to the center. The context includes concepts from rotational dynamics, specifically the conservation of angular momentum and moment of inertia.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia for both the disc and the person, questioning how to adjust the equations as the person moves. There is exploration of the relationship between initial and final angular velocities and the conservation of angular momentum.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different formulations of the equations and questioning the treatment of angular momentum. Some have noted transcription errors in previous posts, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify the reasoning involved.

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There are discussions about the assumptions regarding the moment of inertia and the initial conditions of the system, including the initial angular velocity and the positions of the objects involved.

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1. Tim of a mass of 50 kg is standing on a large spinning disc of a mass of 80kg and a diameter of 5m. Tim standing at the edge of the disc which is rotating at 25 rad/s. He then walks to the center of the disc. Calculate the new angular velocity of the disc.
2. IW=I'W'
IdiskWdisk + ImitchWmitch = ItotalWdisk <-- Is this correct?
Idisk = 1/2mr^2
Imitch = mr^2
W' = 25rad/s

3. I was wondering how to do this problem? The inertia for a standing object = mr^2 and inertia for the disk = 1/2mr^2. How do i change the equation to show his location final? won't r=0?
 
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When the object is at the edge the total moment of inertia is the sum of the MI of disk and MI of Tim. When Tim moves to the center of the disk, the MI is due to the disk only.
 
rl.bhat said:
When the object is at the edge the total moment of inertia is the sum of the MI of disk and MI of Tim. When Tim moves to the center of the disk, the MI is due to the disk only.

IdiskWdisk + ImitchWmitch = IdiskW'

correct?
 
rawimpact said:
IdiskWdisk + ImitchWmitch = IdiskW'

correct?

For the most part.

ω is the same for both boy and disk initially.

1/2Mdisk*r2 + Mboy*r2 = Total angular momentum.

Total = Idisk * ω_new

ω_new = Total / (1/2*Mdisk*r2)
 
LowlyPion said:
For the most part.

ω is the same for both boy and disk initially.

1/2Mdisk*r2 + Mboy*r2 = Total angular momentum.

Total = Idisk * ω_new

ω_new = Total / (1/2*Mdisk*r2)


what happened to the ω_initial?
 
Right you are. Transcription error:

(1/2Mdisk*r2 + Mboy*r2) * ω_initial = Total angular momentum.
 

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