Calculating Area from Differentials

In summary, the conversation is about a problem set involving a diagram with a width of "L" and a length of "3L." The area of a circle within the diagram is calculated using 1/2 * L for the radius. Using differentials, the derivative of the area function A is determined and used to calculate the percent error for a given value of L. After some discussion and calculations, the percent error is found to be approximately 1.25%.
  • #1
ardentmed
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Hey guys,

I need some more help for this problem set I've been working on. I'm doubting some of my answers and I'd appreciate some help.

This is only for question 2. Ignore 1.
Question:
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Alright, so from drawing a diagram, we know that width is "L" and length is "3L." Moreover, the area of the circle uses 1/2 * L for the radius.

Thus,
A = 3L^2 + $\pi$.5L^2 / 2

Thus, using differentials, we know that:
f(a+$\Delta$x) = f(a) + $\Delta$y
And
$\Delta$y = f'(x) $\Delta$x

From substituting $\Delta$y into the other equation, we get:

f(8.05) = 200.99734.
Thus,
A(8.05) = 200.99734 cm^2

For the percent error, it should be $/delta$A / A * 100 = 1.37%.

I'm not too sure about my answer though, particularly the area I calculated via differentials. What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance.
 
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  • #2
Hi, ardentmed

Thankyou so much for sharing your problem with us at the MHB:)

First, the way you use the differentials is in principle OK, but I cannot
from the explicit area function see if you have stated it right. Parentheses are needed:

\[A(L) = 3L^2+\frac{1}{2}\pi \left ( \frac{L}{2}\right )^2=3L^2+\frac{1}{8}\pi L^2= \left ( 3+\frac{\pi }{8} \right )L^2\]

Do you agree so far?
 
  • #3
lfdahl said:
Hi, ardentmed

Thankyou so much for sharing your problem with us at the MHB:)

First, the way you use the differentials is in principle OK, but I cannot
from the explicit area function see if you have stated it right. Parentheses are needed:

\[A(L) = 3L^2+\frac{1}{2}\pi \left ( \frac{L}{2}\right )^2=3L^2+\frac{1}{8}\pi L^2= \left ( 3+\frac{\pi }{8} \right )L^2\]

Do you agree so far?

Thank you for being so helpful.

Yes, that seems correct. Then how would I proceed with this question?
 
  • #4
Next step would be to use the formula you have derived by means of differentials:

$\frac{\Delta A}{A(L)}\approx\frac{A'(L) \cdot \Delta L}{A(L)}\cdot 100 \%$

So you need to determine the derivative of $A$.
 
  • #5
lfdahl said:
Next step would be to use the formula you have derived by means of differentials:

$\frac{\Delta A}{A(L)}\approx\frac{A'(L) \cdot \Delta L}{A(L)}\cdot 100 \%$

So you need to determine the derivative of $A$.

Alright, so I used the following formula:

$\frac{\Delta A}{A(L)}\approx\frac{A'(L) \cdot \Delta L}{A(L)}\cdot 100 \%$

And substituted 8 for L, and used A(L)= 3L^2 + (1/8)$\pi$ L^2

and

A'(L)= 6L + (1/4)$\pi$L

And ultimately computed the following:

$\frac{\Delta A}{A(L)}\approx\frac{A'(L) \cdot \Delta L}{A(L)}\cdot 100 \%$
=0.694489677 * 100

~ 6.94%.

Is that correct?

Thanks again for the help.
 
  • #6
ardentmed said:
Alright, so I used the following formula:

$\frac{\Delta A}{A(L)}\approx\frac{A'(L) \cdot \Delta L}{A(L)}\cdot 100 \%$

And substituted 8 for L, and used A(L)= 3L^2 + (1/8)$\pi$ L^2

and

A'(L)= 6L + (1/4)$\pi$L

And ultimately computed the following:

$\frac{\Delta A}{A(L)}\approx\frac{A'(L) \cdot \Delta L}{A(L)}\cdot 100 \%$
=0.694489677 * 100

~ 6.94%.

Is that correct?

Thanks again for the help.

Hi, again.

Your procedure is perfectly right. Good job! But I think you´ve made a computational error. I get: $1.25 \%$

The computation can be made quite simple, if you let $k = 3+ \frac{\pi}{8}$.

Then: $A(L) = kL^2$ and $A'(L) = 2kL$

and $\frac{A'(L)\Delta L}{A(L)}=\frac{2kL \Delta L}{kL^2}=\frac{2 \Delta L}{L}=\frac{2\cdot0.05}{8}= 0.0125=1.25 \%$
 
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Related to Calculating Area from Differentials

1. What is the formula for calculating area using differentials?

The formula for calculating area using differentials is A = ∫b a f(x) dx, where a and b are the limits of integration and f(x) represents the function that defines the curve.

2. How do differentials help in calculating area?

Differentials allow us to approximate the area under a curve by breaking it down into smaller, simpler shapes such as rectangles or trapezoids. By summing the areas of these shapes, we can get a close approximation of the total area.

3. Can we use differentials to find the area of irregular shapes?

Yes, differentials can be used to find the area of irregular shapes by breaking them down into smaller, simpler shapes and summing their areas. This method is known as the method of differentials or the method of infinitesimals.

4. What is the difference between differentials and derivatives?

Differentials and derivatives are closely related concepts, but they serve different purposes. Differentials are used to approximate small changes in a function, while derivatives are used to find the rate of change of a function at a specific point.

5. Are there any limitations to using differentials for calculating area?

Yes, there are some limitations to using differentials for calculating area. Differentials can only provide an approximation of the total area and may not be completely accurate. Also, this method may not work for all types of curves, such as curves with sharp corners or discontinuities.

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