Calculating Decay Constant Without Initial Value

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To find the decay constant without an initial value, the equation A/5 = A exp(-λt) can be used, where A is the initial activity and t is the time interval. By dividing both sides by A, λ can be isolated. When given an initial activity, such as 10 mCi, the number of atoms can be calculated using the formula N = 3.7 × 10^10 / λ, where λ is the decay constant. Seven half-lives mean the remaining amount is 1/2^7 of the original quantity. Understanding these calculations is essential for accurately determining radioactive decay rates and quantities.
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Radioactive sample activity is said decreases by factor 5 during 2-h interval. How to find the decay constant? If the given initial value is not given? I don't know how to calculate.
 
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Hi Flavia! Welcome to PF! :wink:

Call the initial value "A", and write out an equation to show when it reaches A/5 …

what do you get? :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi Flavia! Welcome to PF! :wink:

Call the initial value "A", and write out an equation to show when it reaches A/5 …

what do you get? :smile:

It becomes A/5 = A exp -λ(2).. how can i get λ as the A is not given?
 
divide both sides by A ! :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
divide both sides by A ! :smile:

tq!:smile:

Can i ask another question here? If it violate rules, I am sorry. If it given initial activity 10 mci, how to know the number of atom inside?
 
Flavia said:
If it given initial activity 10 mci, how to know the number of atom inside?

you mean mCi ?

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie
The curie (symbol Ci) is a non-SI unit of radioactivity, named after Marie and Pierre Curie. It is defined as
1 Ci = 3.7 × 1010 decays per second.​
Its continued use is discouraged.

Curies are occasionally used to express a quantity of radioactive material rather than a decay rate, such as when one refers to 1 Ci of cesium-137.

This may be interpreted as the number of atoms that would produce 1 Ci of radiation. The rules of radioactive decay may be used convert this to an actual number of atoms. They state that 1 Ci of radioactive atoms would follow the expression:
N (atoms) * λ (1/s) = 1 Ci = 3.7 × 1010 (Bq)​
and so,
N = 3.7 × 1010 / λ​
where λ is the decay constant in s-1.​
 
tiny-tim said:
you mean mCi ?

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie
The curie (symbol Ci) is a non-SI unit of radioactivity, named after Marie and Pierre Curie. It is defined as
1 Ci = 3.7 × 1010 decays per second.​
Its continued use is discouraged.

Curies are occasionally used to express a quantity of radioactive material rather than a decay rate, such as when one refers to 1 Ci of cesium-137.

This may be interpreted as the number of atoms that would produce 1 Ci of radiation. The rules of radioactive decay may be used convert this to an actual number of atoms. They state that 1 Ci of radioactive atoms would follow the expression:
N (atoms) * λ (1/s) = 1 Ci = 3.7 × 1010 (Bq)​
and so,
N = 3.7 × 1010 / λ​
where λ is the decay constant in s-1.​

Really helps. tq! another question

1)If given half life. how to get initial decay rate?

From half life, i can get the λ.
Ro = λNo. how to get No?

2)What is seven half life mean? Is it 7T1/2 = value?
 
Hi Flavia! :smile:

(just got up :zzz:)
Flavia said:
2)What is seven half life mean? Is it 7T1/2 = value?

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)

yes, seven half-lives are seven times one half-life (7t1/2)

so the amount left will be 1/27
1)If given half life. how to get initial decay rate?

From half life, i can get the λ.
Ro = λNo. how to get No?

not really following you :confused:

the decay rate depends on the radioactive material, and how much of it there is at any time
 
Hi! i dint find the the X2 button just above the Reply box.

1)If given half life. how to get initial decay rate?
-the question is, the half life of Ga-67 is 78 hours. Calculate initial decay rate
 
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Hi Flavia! :smile:

If you click "QUOTE" or "NEW REPLY" or "Go Advanced", you get to a page with buttons above the Reply box, and symbols to the right. :wink:
Flavia said:
1)If given half life. how to get initial decay rate?
-the question is, the half life of Ga-67 is 78 hours. Calculate initial decay rate

What is the complete question? :confused:

(in other words: what is the meaning of "initial"?)
 
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