Calculating Dimensions of Titanium Disk Under Load

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The discussion focuses on calculating the dimensions of a titanium disk under a load of 20 kN. Participants are attempting to determine the resulting thickness and diameter after applying the load, using relevant equations such as stress and strain. Confusion arises regarding the definitions of axial and transverse directions, particularly in relation to the applied load. Clarification is provided that longitudinal refers to the direction of the applied stress, which helps resolve some misunderstandings. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the application of formulas in mechanical loading scenarios.
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Homework Statement


A titanium disk (with ##E=107 ~GPa##, Poisson's ratio, ##v=0.34##) precisely ##l_0=8~mm## thick by ##d_0=30~mm## diameter is used as a cover plate in a mechanical loading device. If a ##P=20~kN## load is applied to the disk, calculate the resulting dimensions, ##l_{01}## and ##d_{01}##.

Homework Equations


##v=- \frac {d\varepsilon_{trans}} {d\varepsilon_{axial}}=- \frac {d\varepsilon_{y}} {d\varepsilon_{x}}=- \frac {d\varepsilon_{z}} {d\varepsilon_{x}}##

##\sigma=\frac F A##

##\sigma=E\cdot \varepsilon##

The Attempt at a Solution


I had a go working through the problem, but my final depth came out as ##7.999~mm## which seems really wrong. I'm confused which axis is which, or even which axis is being used. Which is trans and which is axial? Or is it ##z## and ##x## we're dealing with here?
 
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WhiteWolf98 said:

Homework Statement


A titanium disk (with ##E=107 ~GPa##, Poisson's ratio, ##v=0.34##) precisely ##l_0=8~mm## thick by ##d_0=30~mm## diameter is used as a cover plate in a mechanical loading device. If a ##P=20~kN## load is applied to the disk, calculate the resulting dimensions, ##l_{01}## and ##d_{01}##.

Homework Equations


##v=- \frac {d\varepsilon_{trans}} {d\varepsilon_{axial}}=- \frac {d\varepsilon_{y}} {d\varepsilon_{x}}=- \frac {d\varepsilon_{z}} {d\varepsilon_{x}}##

##\sigma=\frac F A##

##\sigma=E\cdot \varepsilon##

The Attempt at a Solution


I had a go working through the problem, but my final depth came out as ##7.999~mm## which seems really wrong. I'm confused which axis is which, or even which axis is being used. Which is trans and which is axial? Or is it ##z## and ##x## we're dealing with here?
Les’s see your work. I get 7.998 mm.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Les’s see your work. I get 7.998 mm.

##\sigma = \frac F A = \frac {20×10^3} {\pi (15×10^{-3})^2} = 28.3×10^6 ~ Nm^{-2}##

##\sigma = E \cdot \varepsilon##

##\varepsilon = \frac \sigma E = \frac {28.3×10^6} {107×10^9}=2.64×10^{-4} ##

## v=- \frac {\varepsilon_{lat}} {\varepsilon_{long}}=0.34 → \varepsilon_{lat}=-(0.34)(2.64×10^{-4})=-8.99×10^{-5}##

##\varepsilon_{lat}=\frac {\Delta D} {D_0}##

##{\Delta D}=(-8.99×10^{-5})(8~mm)=-7.19×10^{-4}~mm##

##Hence ~D_f = 7.999 ~mm##

Truth be told, I watched someone do a similar problem, though it was with a cylinder for them. I just did the exact same as them, but used my numbers instead. I don't know why these equations are used or how to find the new length. If I was asked to do this again in an exam, I could probably do it, but I want to understand why
 
The way I interpreted this problem was that the load was compressional, and in the 8 mm thickness direction of the disk. So the strain in the 8 mm dimension was -0.000264, and the strain in the diameter direction was +0.0000899.
 
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The main thing I don't understand is the formula: ##v=- \frac {\varepsilon_{lat}} {\varepsilon_{long}}##. How does one know which is latitudinal and longitudinal? Apologies if it sounds like a silly question. I don't know how to apply the formula
 
WhiteWolf98 said:
The main thing I don't understand is the formula: ##v=- \frac {\varepsilon_{lat}} {\varepsilon_{long}}##. How does one know which is latitudinal and longitudinal? Apologies if it sounds like a silly question. I don't know how to apply the formula
Longitudinal means in the direction of the applied stress. "Along the force".
 
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haruspex said:
Longitudinal means in the direction of the applied stress. "Along the force".

I see! That clears things up, thank you! And Chestermiller too lol
 

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