Calculating Distance Between Plates EF & GH with Varying Electric Fields

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The discussion focuses on calculating the distance GX between two plates EF and GH in a physics problem involving an electron moving through varying electric fields. The initial calculations incorrectly applied gravitational acceleration instead of the acceleration due to the electric field, which is 1000 N/C. After correcting the approach and factoring in the electron's charge and mass, the participant arrived at a distance GX of 0.63 m, which did not match the expected answer of 0.02 m. A potential error in unit conversion from meters to millimeters was identified as a possible reason for the discrepancy. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying physics principles and unit consistency in calculations.
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Homework Statement



ABCD are 2 parallel plates,between which a potential difference of 10,000V is maintained.An electron starting from rest,from point P,moves towards a small hole at Q.
After emerging from Q,the electron passes through a region independent of any electric fields and then enters the space between 2 plates EF and GH ,between which a vertical electric field 1000NC-1 is maintained.
The electron then strikes the lower plate at a point X.
If the distance d is 0.01m,find the distance GX




Homework Equations



Equations of motion
F=ma
F=Eq
E=V/x (I think?)

The Attempt at a Solution


For plates AB,CD,

F=ma
F/m=a
Eq/m=a
Vq/xm = a q= charge of an electron
m=mass of an electron

v2 = u2 + 2as
v2 = 0 + 2ax
v2 = 2*Vq/xm
v2 = m2*10,000q/m
v=\sqrt{m2*1000q/m}

for EF,GH
\downarrow s= 1/2gt2 s=d=0.01
0.01=1/2gt2
t=\sqrt{0.02/g}

\rightarrow s=ut s=GX=y, u= v
y =\sqrt{m2*10,000q/m}*\sqrt{0.02/g}
But I don't know q,m and I haven't used the electric field intensity (1000NC-1)anywhere in my calculations.
What am I doing wrong?

Thank you.
 

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leena19 said:
v2 = u2 + 2as
v2 = 0 + 2ax
v2 = 2*Vq/xm
v2 = m2*10,000q/m
v=\sqrt{m2*1000q/m}
OK, but you lost a factor of 10 under the square root. That's the electron's speed after exiting the hole.

for EF,GH
\downarrow s= 1/2gt2 s=d=0.01
0.01=1/2gt2
t=\sqrt{0.02/g}
The acceleration is not g. (That's the acceleration due to gravity--not relevant here.) Find the acceleration on the electron due to the electric field.

But I don't know q,m
The charge and mass of an electron are constants that you can look up.
and I haven't used the electric field intensity (1000NC-1)anywhere in my calculations.
You'll need that to find the acceleration. (Just like you did in the first part.)
 
Thank you so much for replying,sir
Doc Al said:
OK, but you lost a factor of 10 under the square root. That's the electron's speed after exiting the hole

Oh yes,what a careless mistake,
so after correcting it I get,
v=\sqrt{2*10,000q/m}


The acceleration is not g. (That's the acceleration due to gravity--not relevant here.) Find the acceleration on the electron due to the electric field.
Another terrible mistake.I just thought of it as a projectile,I forgot to take into account the acceleration due to the electric field force in EFGH,but now I understand.

Correction:
Then,using F=ma ,to find the acceleration of the electron through EF,GH,
a=F/m
Eq/m=a
1000q/m=a

\downarrow s = 1/2at2
0.01= 1/2*(1000q/m )*t2
0.02*m/1000q=t2
\sqrt{0.02*m/1000q}=t


\rightarrows=ut
GX=(\sqrt{2*10,000q/m}) \sqrt{0.02*m/1000q}
GX=\sqrt{2*10} * \sqrt{0.02}
GX=\sqrt{2*10} * \sqrt{2*10^{-2}}
GX=2*10-1 * \sqrt{10}
GX=0.63m

Is this correct,now?I haven't got the answers to check.

THANK YOU
 
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Can someone check this for me, please?The answer's supposed to be 0.02m,which is nowhere close to what I get.
I really don't know where I'm going wrong,

Thanks in advance
 
Your work looks OK to me. (Sorry for not responding earlier.) What book are you using?
 
When I use a distance d of 0.1 m, I get almost exactly 2 m as my answer for the horizontal displacement. In other words, when I use a distance which is wrong by a factor of 10, I get an answer which is wrong by a factor of 100. Indicates to me that maybe there's a unit mismatch somewhere? Centimeters or millimeters, maybe?
 
merryjman said:
Indicates to me that maybe there's a unit mismatch somewhere? Centimeters or millimeters, maybe?
Good spot! If d = 0.01 mm (instead of 0.01 m), the answer would match the book's answer.
 
Thank you,merryjman.
Thank you Doc Al.Thank you both so much!
our teacher dictated the question for us,so I may have got the units wrong while taking it down & I don't know what book it's from to check,so
I apologise for any trouble caused.
 
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