Calculating Distance Using Force, Mass, and Acceleration

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The discussion centers on calculating the distance a rock falls using force, mass, and acceleration. The rock weighs 68 kg, and the force at impact is 15 kN, leading to an initial calculation of 22.51 meters for the fall distance. However, participants note that additional information is needed, such as the nature of the surface and the specifics of the collision type. The conversation also touches on the relationship between kinetic energy and force, suggesting that energy spent to stop will vary with different stopping distances. Ultimately, the question is reframed to consider the maximum fall distance for a climber before the rope fails, emphasizing the need for a more comprehensive approach to the problem.
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Homework Statement




A rock is dropped from x(meters) height. The rock weighs 68 kg, and its force at impact with the ground is 15 kiloNewtons. If the acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2, what is the distance/height the rock has fallen?


Homework Equations




F=m*a

15kN=15000kg*m/s^2

666.4N=68kg*9.8m/s^2

The force exerted by the rock at stationary position is 666.4 Newtons.

The rock fall distance is x meters.


The Attempt at a Solution




666.4N*x=15000N

(666.4kg*m/s^2)*x=15000kg*m/s^2

x=(15000kg*m/s^2)/(666.4kg*m/s^2)

x=22.51


This was all I could come with, but it is simply the ratio of the force. How do I find distance?
 
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Please state the complete problem exactly as given. As you've written it, there's not enough information. (The impact force depends on the nature of the surface being hit.)
 
Doc Al said:
Please state the complete problem exactly as given. As you've written it, there's not enough information. (The impact force depends on the nature of the surface being hit.)

Shouldn't there be a formula for the kinetic energy of a mass falling distance x and a formula for the F generated by an unknown kinetic energy when it hits? The two could then be equated resolving x.

I don't see elastic/inelastic collisions mentioned.
 
AC130Nav said:
Shouldn't there be a formula for the kinetic energy of a mass falling distance x
That one's easy.
and a formula for the F generated by an unknown kinetic energy when it hits?
That one's not so easy. More information is needed.
 
Doc Al said:
More information is needed.

Thank you for your responses. This was a question posed to me by a friend of mine who rock climbs. He inferred that the distance of the fall could be calculated using the force, mass and gravitational constant. Is it correct to say that the energy spent to stop will be the same for different stopping distances while the required force will be variable?

The question may be better understood as follows:

A person who weighs 68 kg falls an unknown distance. The climber's rope has a breaking strength of 15 kN, and a dynamic elongation of 29%. Barring any other variables (friction, etc.), what is the furthest distance the climber could fall before the rope fails?
 
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