Calculating Electric Field Outside a Spherical Conductor

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field outside a charged spherical conductor using Gauss's law, which simplifies the process by treating the conductor as a point charge at its center. It highlights that while Gauss's law provides a clear solution, using Coulomb's law requires complex integration over the sphere's surface due to hidden charges. Participants discuss the challenges of performing this integration and the necessity of considering the entire spherical surface with uniform charge density. A user seeks assistance with their integral related to the electric field calculation, indicating it pertains to a sphere charged only at its surface. The thread emphasizes the effectiveness of Gauss's law for this scenario while addressing the complications of alternative methods.
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Hi,

When we calculate electric field due to a charged spherical conductor at a point outside the conductor, by Gauss's law, it is equal to the electric field due to a point charge at the center of sphere, with net charge on the sphere. We can also calculate this electric field strength using coulombs law at the same point and we would have to consider the hemispherical charges which are hidden or not seen directly at that point. That is we have to perform integration over the entire spherical surface with uniform charge density. How if the electric field strength at inside the sphere is zero, then at the point where we calculate E, we can still have the effect of the hidden charges through sphere?

Bob
 
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the clean way to do this is to use Gauss's law (which works for any inverse-square field such as gravity, not just E&M) and spherical symmetry, but if you were to do this with just Coulomb's law, you would have to integrate the resulting field vector over the entire spherical surface (there is no hidden part of the sphere).

but Gauss's law has already dealt with this. and the result outside the sphere is as you say (indistinguishable from a point charge) and inside the sphere, there is no resulting field. you would get the same result by painfully integrating the entire sphere surface.
 
bobca117 said:
Hi,

When we calculate electric field due to a charged spherical conductor at a point outside the conductor, by Gauss's law, it is equal to the electric field due to a point charge at the center of sphere, with net charge on the sphere. We can also calculate this electric field strength using coulombs law at the same point and we would have to consider the hemispherical charges which are hidden or not seen directly at that point. That is we have to perform integration over the entire spherical surface with uniform charge density. How if the electric field strength at inside the sphere is zero, then at the point where we calculate E, we can still have the effect of the hidden charges through sphere?

Bob

The integral is straightforward, bujt a bit complicated.
It gives the Gauss result.
It is easiest to integrate over a sequence of uniformly charged rings.
 
And what is the integral? I need to solve this using Coulomb's law. I don't think I'm getting the right integral.
 
Show us the integral that you got, and someone can probably tell you where your error is.
 
Alright,

if you look at the attached file, this is the integral I've got at the end.

Please note that this is for a sphere that is only charged at its surface.

Can someone tell me if I got it right? And if so, how do we solve this integral?
 

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I believe that one integrates over a vector that is the sum of the vector from observer to the center of the sphere, and the vector that spans in spherical coordinates from that center over the sphere's surface charge.
 
Hmm? :S
 
Please note that this type of question belongs in the HW/Coursework forum, and that is where this thread has been moved to.

Zz.
 
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