Calculating Electric Force between Identical Charged Rods

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Identical charged rods of length (2a) with charge +Q are positioned along the x-axis, separated by a distance b greater than 2a. The magnitude of the electric force exerted by the left rod on the right rod is derived as F = k_e(Q^2 / 4a^2) ln(b^2 / (b^2 - 4a^2)). The calculation involves integrating the electric field produced by one rod and applying it to the differential charge of the other rod. Key steps include expressing charge density and integrating over the length of the rods. This approach is similar to problems involving gravitational forces between extended objects.
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Identical thin rods of length (2a) carry equal charges +Q uniformly distributed along their lengths.

The rods lie on (along) the x-axis with their *centers* separated by a distance b > 2a.

(Left rod from x=-a to x=a, right rod from x=b-a to x=b+a)

Show that the magnitude of the force exerted by the left rod on the right one is

F = k_e\frac{Q^2}{4a^2} \ln \frac{b^2}{b^2-4a^2}

Thanks very much for answering :-)
 
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if you want you can use this ideas: q=\lambda2a or for a small piece
dq=\lambdadx in this case I'm not going to write the electric field as vector because is in the same direction. -->
E=K\lambda\int_{-a}^a\frac{dx_1}{r^2}and r=x_1+x_2+b because x_1 is the variable on the first rod , x_2 on the other and b is the ditance between them. After this you can integrate with respect dx_2 and take again the interval from a to -a and you'll get the result your looking for.
 
I'm sorry my Latex is not good.However, dq=(lambda)dx and make these substitutions
dr=dx_1 , x_2+b= constants for the first integral. I hope this hepls.
-wisky40
 
I'm going to give you some hints more:

dF=E\lambdadx_2

F=\int_{-a}^aE\lambdadx_2

and finally

\lambda^2=\frac{q^2}{4a^2}

-wisky40
 
I'm sorry my Latex still bad

F=int of E(lambda)dx_2 ,from -a to a

-wisky40
 
This reminds me of a problem where I had to find the gravitational force on one rod due to the other. This was a problem in my Calc. book. The easiest way to solve this is to find the force on a point by the rod and then extending the point into a rod.
 
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