Calculating Escape Velocity for Reaching Altitude of 800km

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To calculate the escape velocity needed to reach an altitude of 800 km, the relevant equations involve kinetic energy (KE) and gravitational potential energy (GPE). The initial velocity must account for the gravitational potential energy at both the Earth's surface and at 800 km altitude. The final calculations yield an escape velocity of approximately 3.74 x 10^3 m/s, confirming the correct approach to the problem. The discussion emphasizes the importance of including the initial potential energy when determining the minimum velocity required for the projectile. Overall, the calculations align with the principles of energy conservation in a vacuum.
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Q: In the absenceof air resistance, the least speed with which a body must be projected vertically upward from the Earth's surface if it is to reach an altitude of 800km is...

800km = 8.00x10^5 m
radius of Earth = 6.37x10^6 m
mass of Earth = 5.99x10^24 kg

Kf +Uf = Ki + Ui
0 + 0 = 1/2 mv^2 + (- G Me m / Re + 800km )
1/2 mv^2 = G Me m / Re +800km
m drops out
v = square root of [ (2)(6.67x10^-11)(5.99x10^24)/(7.17x10^6) ]
v = 1.06x10^4 m/s

is this right? thanks in advance for the help
 
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Look at your Uf and Ui. Are you sure that Uf is 0? Are you sure about that expression for Ui?

-Dale
 
The change in kinetic energy = change in gravitational potential energy if one neglects air resistance (i.e. nonconservative forces).

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/gpot.html

So the objective is to find the initial velocity at which a projectile will leave the Earth's surface, r1 = re, and travel to a radius, r2 = re + 800 km.

So there is an initial KE and GPE and a final KE and GPE, the total energy (KE + GPE) being equal. KE = kinetic energy and GPE being gravitational potential energy.

The minimum speed coincides with KEf = 0, and thus KEi = 1/2 mvi2 = \DeltaGPE.
 
Your initial potential energy muz include the energy of the body on the surface of the earth... It's not zero.
 
ok i think i have it now

Kf + Uf = Ki + Ui
0 [because its a minimum velocity] + ( -G Me m / Re +800km ) [potential at 800km] = 1/2 m v^2 + ( -G Me m / Re ) [potential at the begining, the surface of the earth]

then through some algebra we can solve for v

2 [ {-(6.67x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.37x10^6)+(8.00x10^5)} + {(6.67x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.37x10^6)} ] = v^2

v = 3.74x10^3 m/s is this right?

hoping my arithmetic is right but i think i got it thanks in advancefor verification!
 
Yup.. tat shld be the correct ans.
 
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