Calculating F2 for Double and Triple Changes in Coulombs Law"

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The discussion revolves around applying Coulomb's Law to calculate the electrostatic force between two charges when multiple changes occur simultaneously: the distance between the charges is doubled, one charge is tripled, and the other is doubled. Participants are examining how these changes affect the magnitude of the force.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to clarify the values of the charges and distance after the changes, questioning if they should simply double and triple from the original values. Other participants raise concerns about the interpretation of the factors involved in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing their interpretations and rearrangements of the equations. There is a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the application of the changes to the original quantities, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the specific values of the charges and distance in the context of the problem, as well as how to correctly apply the changes simultaneously. Participants are navigating these assumptions without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


Look back at the Example in the Using Coulombs Law-Comparative Analysis section. Calculate the magnitude of F2 if both changes occurred simultaneously-that is, if the distance between the charges doubled and the size of once tripled, while the size of the other doubled.

This is the original example:

If the electrostatic force between two charges is 6.0 x 10^-8 N, what effect would each of the following changes have on the magnitude of the force?
1) the distance between the charges is doubled
2)One charge is doubled and the other is tripled

Solution:
1)
F2 = (6.0x10^-8 N)xr1 / (2r1)^2
= (6.0x10^-8 N) / 4
= 1.5 x 10^-8 N

2) q1=2q1
q2=3q1

F1/F2 = q1q2/q1q2

(6.0x10^-8 N)/F2 = q1q2 / (2q1)(3q2)

F2 = (6.0x10^-8N)(6)
= 3.6 x 10^-7 N

This is the solution to the example!


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I can do the actually solution to this problem, but my only question is what are the values of q1 and q2 and r? Since they're literally exactly the same in both questions, does it mean that they all just double and triple from the original? Meaning r = 4r1, q1 = 6q1, q2 = 6q2

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank You
 
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I don't understand where you get the factors of 4 and 6 from.

Double = multiply by a factor of 2.

Triple = multiply by a factor of 3.

The only difference is that, instead of making each of these changes separately, ALL three changes are now to be made at the same time so that (primed symbols represent the "new" quantities after the changes):

r' = 2r

q1' = 3q1

q2' = 2q2
 
ohh okay, sorry i thought it mean't something else.

Do i ended up setting F1/F2 = (q1q2/r1^2) / ((3q1)(2q1)/2r1^2)

I rearranged it to be F2 = 6F1/4r1 (after cancellations and rearranging)

Im not sure if i rearranged it correctly...
 
sorry i forgot to cancel r1, its actually F2 = 6F1/4
 

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