Calculating flux via divergence theorem.

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Homework Statement


Compute the flux of \vec{F} through z=e^{1-r^2} where \vec{F} = [x,y,2-2z]^T and r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}.

EDIT: the curve must satisfy z\geq 0.

Homework Equations


Divergence theorem: \iint\limits_{\partial X} \Phi_{\vec{F}} = \iiint\limits_X \nabla\cdot\vec{F}\,dx\,dy\,dz

The Attempt at a Solution



For the given \vec{F}, we have \nabla\cdot\vec{F} = 0. So isn't the flux just zero by the divergence theorem? I am confused because there is a hint saying that I should change the given surface to a simpler one.
 
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hi dustbin! :wink:
dustbin said:
For the given \vec{F}, we have \nabla\cdot\vec{F} = 0. So isn't the flux just zero by the divergence theorem?

correct :smile:

but that's only for a closed surface …

so find another (simpler) surface that you can join to this surface to make a closed surface :wink:
 
Thanks for the tip tiny-tim! I should note that I forgot to put the restriction z\geq 1 on the given surface. I will think about your suggestion and post back!
 
Since X must be a compact domain in \mathbb{R}^3, we must bound from below the region bounded above by the given surface. Since z\geq 1, setting 1=e^{1-r^2} gives the (simpler) surface x^2+y^2=1. The union of this disc and the given surface form the boundary, \partial X, of a compact region X of \mathbb{R}^3. Hence we may now apply the divergence theorem.
 
hi dustbin! :smile:

yes, i think that's right

(except that I'm not sure which surface you mean … x2+y2 = 1 is a cylinder :wink:)
 
I meant x^2+y^2 = 1 to be confined to the plane z=1. Thank you! :redface:

To take it all the way:

Call S_1 the given surface and S_2 the new surface so that S_1\cup S_2 = \partial X. Observe that \Phi_{\vec{F}} = x\,dy\wedge dz - y\,dx\wedge dz + (2-2z)\,dx\wedge dy. Parametrize S_2 via x=r\cos\theta, \ y=r\sin\theta, \ z=1 such that \theta \in [0,2\pi) \ , \ 0\leq r \leq 1. Call this parametrization \gamma. Then \Phi_{\vec{F}}(\gamma) = (2-2)r = 0. Applying the theorem, we have

<br /> 0 = \iiint\limits_X \nabla\cdot\vec{F}\,dx\,dy\,dz = \iint\limits_{S_1} \Phi_{\vec{F}} + \iint\limits_{S_2} \Phi_{\vec{F}} = \iint\limits_{S_1} \Phi_{\vec{F}}.<br />

Thus the flux of \vec{F} across S_1 is 0.
 
that's very complicated :redface:

isn't it simpler to keep to x,y,z. and say that F on the surface is (x,y,0)T, and so … ? :wink:
 
The way that I did it is the only way I know to calculate flux. :redface:
 
dustbin said:
The way that I did it is the only way I know to calculate flux. :redface:

flux is just F·ñ

why do you need to convert to polar coordinates to calculate what (on this surface) is obviously 0 ?? :wink:
 
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Is \hat{\textbf{n}} the orienting normal?
 
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yüp! :smile:
 
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I see. The text I use doesn't use standard notation, so when I look at other books or sites about vector calculus, I feel hopelessly lost with the notation!

Thank you for your help :-)
 
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