Calculating Force in Special Relativity with Proton Velocities

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To calculate the force required to accelerate a proton at 4.0 x 10^19 m/s² at velocities of 0.7c and 0.97c, the relevant equations from special relativity include F = dp/dt and p = γmv, where γ is the Lorentz factor. The user successfully derived the force for lower velocities (0.09c and 0.4c) but struggles with the higher velocities, indicating a potential issue with the application of the quotient rule for derivatives. The discussion highlights the need to express the force in terms of γ to simplify the calculations. Participants suggest refining the expression to clarify the final form, emphasizing the importance of accurately applying relativistic principles. The conversation underscores the complexities of force calculations in special relativity, particularly at high velocities.
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Homework Statement


Find the force necessary to give a proton an acceleration of 4.0 1019 m/s2 when the proton has the following velocities (along the same direction as the force).

We're covering special relativity and due to my lack of a brain I can't figure this simple problem out.

Velocities are .09c and .4c (I have answers the homework website likes for these ones because the v/c isn't doing much to y?)

and .7c and .97c, which I can't get right.


Homework Equations


F = dp/dt
P = ymv
(y is gamma)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the quotient rule for derivatives, and got an eqn that, when plugging in the given velocities, came up with answers that it marked as correct for the first 2, but not for the 2nd 2.

F = dp/dt = m*d/dt(yv)
(B is v/c) (a is acceleration)
F = m[(a*sqrt(1-B^2) + ((1-B^2)^-.5)(B^2)(A)]/(1-B^2)

There must be a better way to do this problem... if anyone can help I would appreciate it, very angry with this problem. Thanks.
 
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IDumb said:
F = dp/dt = m*d/dt(yv)
(B is v/c) (a is acceleration)
OK.
F = m[(a*sqrt(1-B^2) + ((1-B^2)^-.5)(B^2)(A)]/(1-B^2)
Not quite sure I understand that last step. Try to simplify this expression into some final form. (Express everything in terms of γ.)
 
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