Calculating Forces & Heights in a Hydraulic Lift

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In the hydraulic lift problem, the small piston requires a force of approximately 514 N to lift an 18.5 kN car. When the small piston is pushed down by 1 cm, the car is lifted by about 90.7 cm, demonstrating the lift's efficiency. The mechanical advantage of the system is calculated to be around 35.9, indicating that the large piston amplifies the force applied to the small piston significantly. The ratio of the forces is derived from the square of the radius ratio, confirming a mechanical advantage of 36. This discussion highlights the principles of hydraulic systems and the calculations involved in determining force, height, and mechanical advantage.
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Homework Statement



In a hydraulic lift the radii of the pistons are 1.75cm and 10.5cm. A car weighing 18.5kN is to be lifted by the force of the large piston.

a.) what force must be applied to the small piston?

b.) when the small piston is pushed 1.00cm, how far is the car lifted?

c.) find the mechanical advantage of the lift (this is the ratio of the large force to the small force)

The Attempt at a Solution



a.) F= (r/R)^2 (F)
= (1.75 cm/10.5 cm)^2 (18.5 kN)
= .514 or 514 N

b.) Win(f)= Wout(F)= fh=FH=H= (f/F)h= (pi)r^2/(piR^2=(r/R)^2
= (1m/R)^2 = (100cm/10.5cm)^2
= 90.7cm

c.) MA= F/f= 18.5kN/1.75cm
= 10.57I have no clue if I am doing this right.. can anyone help?
 
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Mowgli said:
a.) F= (r/R)^2 (F)
= (1.25 cm/15.0 cm)^2 (14.5 kN)
= .1007 or .101 N
Good, but careful with units. (Those are kN, not N.)

b.) Win(f)= Wout(F)= fh=FH=H= (f/F)h= (pi)r^2/(piR^2=(r/R)^2
= (1m/R)^2 = (100cm/10.5cm)^2
= 90.7cm
FH = fh is correct. What's the ratio of the forces?

c.) MA= F/f= 18.5kN/1.75cm
= 10.57
What's the ratio of the forces?
 
I'm not sure how to find that?
 
Mowgli said:
I'm not sure how to find that?
Use what you found in part a.
 
is it 1/10?
 
Mowgli said:
is it 1/10?
Nope. You were given one force and for part a you found the other force. What's their ratio?
 
14.5/101
 
I just realized my problem had the wrong numbers- so I edited the problem...

For part b.) is my ratio now 18.5/514?
 
Mowgli said:
For part b.) is my ratio now 18.5/514?
(18.5/514)^2 ??

and then I think c.) is MA=F/f = 18.5/.514
= 35.9

Can anyone help?
 
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Trying to figure this out:

b.) (r/R)^2
so, therefore it should be (1.75/10.5)^2
which = .0278

c.) MA= F/f = 18.5/.514 = 35.9

?
 
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Mowgli said:
Trying to figure this out:

b.) (r/R)^2
so, therefore it should be (1.75/10.5)^2
which = .0278

c.) MA= F/f = 18.5/.514 = 35.9

?
That's fine. The ratio of forces is given by (R/r)^2 = (10.5/1.75)^2 = 6^2 = 36.

So for b, the large piston will raise by 1/36 of the distance the small piston is lowered.

And for c, the mechanical advantage is just that ratio of forces.
 
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