Where Can I Find Resources for Calculating Rotor Forces During Auto-Rotation?

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The discussion focuses on the challenges of mathematically modeling rotor forces during auto-rotation using lift and drag equations similar to those for fixed-wing flight. The complexity arises from the varying angle of attack and wind velocity as a vertical component is introduced, leading to difficult integration problems. A request for recommendations on textbooks or online resources that cover these calculations is made, emphasizing the need for material that addresses rotor dynamics with vertical speed components. A suggestion is made to explore blade-element momentum theory as a relevant approach to this problem. This highlights the intricate nature of rotor aerodynamics and the need for specialized knowledge in aeronautical engineering.
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Hello,

Out of curiosity I've been trying to mathematically model the forces on a rotor during auto-rotation starting with the basic lift/drag equations used for analyzing basic fixed wing flight (i.e. our beloved L = 0.5*Cl*rho*A*v^2). At first I thought this shouldn't be too hard since it's essentially the same as a fixed wing traveling over an airflow that increased linearly as you go from one end of the wing to the other. However as soon as you add a vertical component to the wind velocity angle of attack begins to vary with distance from the center of the rotor as well as velocity. This basically boils down to a very ugly integration problem and I'm just not that great at this type of mathematics and I figure someone must have done this before in a textbook somewhere.

So I just wanted to ask if anyone knows a good textbook or internet resources that does the calculation I'm trying to do. This doesn't need to specifically be auto-rotation, but any calculation that uses the basic lift/drag calculation to determine the overall forces produced by a rotor which has some vertical speed component.

(Also I have a master's in Mech. Engineering, so I can understand high level math but I have almost no exposure to aeronautical engineering beyond basic fluid dynamics.)

Thanks in advance :)
 
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rm446 said:
Hello,

Out of curiosity I've been trying to mathematically model the forces on a rotor during auto-rotation starting with the basic lift/drag equations used for analyzing basic fixed wing flight (i.e. our beloved L = 0.5*Cl*rho*A*v^2). At first I thought this shouldn't be too hard since it's essentially the same as a fixed wing traveling over an airflow that increased linearly as you go from one end of the wing to the other. However as soon as you add a vertical component to the wind velocity angle of attack begins to vary with distance from the center of the rotor as well as velocity. This basically boils down to a very ugly integration problem and I'm just not that great at this type of mathematics and I figure someone must have done this before in a textbook somewhere.

So I just wanted to ask if anyone knows a good textbook or internet resources that does the calculation I'm trying to do. This doesn't need to specifically be auto-rotation, but any calculation that uses the basic lift/drag calculation to determine the overall forces produced by a rotor which has some vertical speed component.

(Also I have a master's in Mech. Engineering, so I can understand high level math but I have almost no exposure to aeronautical engineering beyond basic fluid dynamics.)

Thanks in advance :)

Get a book on blade-element-momentum-theory to describe what you're trying to do. It's a non trivial process.
 
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