Calculating frequency for small torsional oscillation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the frequency of small torsional oscillations for a system consisting of a rigid disk attached to a light elastic shaft. Participants are exploring the relationship between torque, shear modulus, and oscillation equations, questioning whether to approach the problem using Newtonian mechanics or conservation of energy. There is uncertainty regarding the role of the shear modulus in the calculations, particularly how it relates to the torsional modulus. The conversation highlights the need for clarity on the equations governing torsional motion and the contributions of each component in the system. Overall, the participants are seeking guidance on the correct methodology for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


A thin, uniform, rigid disk of mass M, radius R is welded to a light, elastic shaft of radius r, length L, shear modulus G. Phi is the torsional oscillation.
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Homework Equations



Phi=TL/GI
I=pi/2*r^4(polar area moment of inertia)

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the shaft is "light", I assumed it to be massless and considered it a spring instead. I'm not sure if this is the right train of thought. I'm trying the Newtonian approach of equating torque:

I(total)*phi"=torque of shaft+torque of disk

somehow though, I couldn't figure out the torque of the disk. If the shaft is a spring, it's torque would be k*phi.

Am I even on the right track here? Should I do conservation of energy instead?
 
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hi lzhlzh1 :smile:
lzh said:
A thin, uniform, rigid disk of mass M, radius R is welded to a light, elastic shaft of radius r, length L, shear modulus G …

do you know what shear modulus is?

if so, write an equation for it :wink:
 
it's the ratio of shear stress to shear strain.

G=(F/A)/tan(theta)
but truthfully I don't understand what role G plays in this question except for in the phi equation i posted
 
you'll need to use conservation of energy (ie kinetic energy of the disc plus torsional potential energy of the shaft)

but i don't know how the shear modulus in the question is related to the torsional modulus :confused:
 
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