# Calculating Initial Speed of a Rocket Launch

• Potato21
In summary, the conversation discusses a problem where a person wants to shoot a rocket off a mountain and have it land at a specific distance away. The only force acting on the rocket is gravity and the question is asking for the initial speed of the rocket. The conversation includes various attempts at solving the problem and ultimately concludes with a solution of 257m/s for the initial speed.
Potato21

## Homework Statement

A person wants to shoot a rocket off of a mountain 3.26 km high so that the rocket, when shot at 31.3° above the horizontal from the very top of the mountain, lands at the foot of the mountain 9.37 km (horizontal distance) away. What initial speed must the rocket have? (Assume that the only force acting on the rocket after it is blasted from the top of the mountain is gravity.)

## Homework Equations

df=1/2at^2+v0t+di

## The Attempt at a Solution

I honestly don't know where to start, I've tried a variation of things and got nowhere :/

I'm trying to create formulas with vy and vx as vi sin 31.3 and vi cos 31.2 but I end up with the y side needing to use the quadratic formual with a vi variable in it and then I don't know how to solve it. Compared to the other questions given that also seems absurdly difficult. help?

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firstly write down all the information the question gives you in component form, i.e. vertical,horizontal speed and acceleration, vertical horizontal displacements and also what you are required to find. Then find the relevant formula, your'e looking for s=ut +1/2at^2 with whatever symbols you use. The equation you gave seems to have one to many variables unless your teacher gave it to you for this specific case?

pat666 said:
firstly write down all the information the question gives you in component form, i.e. vertical,horizontal speed and acceleration, vertical horizontal displacements and also what you are required to find. Then find the relevant formula, your'e looking for s=ut +1/2at^2 with whatever symbols you use. The equation you gave seems to have one to many variables unless your teacher gave it to you for this specific case?

I wasn't given any equation :( its from my university's randomized homework question generator too so I can't ask any of my course-mates either. Their components end up as

y=-9.81/2t^2+visin31.3t+3250 and I'm looking for y=0m (converted from km)
x=vicos31.3t with x=9370m

I haven't found a way to solve it though

see you know range(R) so
R = t * v * cos(31.3)

from here you get a relation between time and velocity.

just substitute t in terms of velocity in the equation

y = v *sin(31.1)*t + 1/2 * g * t^2

Here you know y and g, only v is unknown...
Solve!

The legend said:
see you know range(R) so
R = t * v * cos(31.3)

from here you get a relation between time and velocity.

just substitute t in terms of velocity in the equation

y = v *sin(31.1)*t + 1/2 * g * t^2

Here you know y and g, only v is unknown...
Solve!

Does that range formula give show the range though when the landing position is not at the same height as the firing position?

EDIT:wait, yes it does, ALRIGHT! time to try this! I hope I don't have anything complicated in doing a quadratic formula though :S

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Yep I agree completely, one interesting thing is that I got around 490m/s which is very fast but I suppose its a rocket and has a long way to go in 22.3 seconds.

Yous use crazy symbols though, what happened to conventional u,v and subscript i and j for relative direction.

I believe that what yous are calling range is the horizontal displacement? and yes it can be thought of as independent of the vertical displacement but it is dependent on the time (which is dependent on vertical displacement).

Alright, I ended up with 42.7s and then solving for initial speed I got 257m/s which the computer accepts as right. Thank you everyone! I was trying to solve for initial velocity in one go which made me solve the range horizontal displacement formula for initial speed instead of time making it needlessy complicated. The next question was what asked for the time though so I assumed I needed to find the initial speed first.

257m/s? wonder what I stuffed up.

Potato21 said:
Alright, I ended up with 42.7s and then solving for initial speed I got 257m/s which the computer accepts as right. Thank you everyone! I was trying to solve for initial velocity in one go which made me solve the range horizontal displacement formula for initial speed instead of time making it needlessy complicated. The next question was what asked for the time though so I assumed I needed to find the initial speed first.

You can get the initial velocity in one go by using the equation

-y = v*sinθ*(x/v*cosθ) - 1/2*g*x^2/(v^2*cos^2θ)

-y = x*sinθ - 1/2*g*x^2/(v^2*cos^2θ)

Now solve for v.

## 1. How do you calculate the initial speed of a rocket launch?

The initial speed of a rocket launch can be calculated using the formula V = u + at, where V is the final speed, u is the initial speed, a is the acceleration, and t is the time.

## 2. What is the acceleration of a rocket during launch?

The acceleration of a rocket during launch can vary depending on the specific rocket and its engine. Generally, the acceleration can range from 5-10 meters per second squared (m/s^2).

## 3. Is it possible to calculate the initial speed of a rocket without knowing the final speed?

Yes, it is possible to calculate the initial speed of a rocket without knowing the final speed. This can be done by rearranging the formula V = u + at to solve for u (initial speed) as u = V - at. This is useful when only the initial and final positions of the rocket are known.

## 4. How does air resistance affect the initial speed of a rocket launch?

Air resistance, also known as drag, can significantly affect the initial speed of a rocket launch. As the rocket moves through the air, it experiences a force in the opposite direction of its motion, which can decrease its acceleration and therefore its initial speed. This is why rockets are designed with streamlined shapes and often have fins to reduce air resistance.

## 5. Are there any other factors that can affect the initial speed of a rocket launch?

Yes, there are several other factors that can affect the initial speed of a rocket launch, including the weight and design of the rocket, the amount of fuel and its burn rate, and external forces such as wind. These factors must be carefully considered and controlled in order to achieve a successful and efficient rocket launch.

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