Calculating Moment of Inertia for a Rolling Can of Soup

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia for a rolling can of soup on an incline. The user initially struggles with the equations, particularly in determining the correct expression for final velocity, mistakenly using average velocity instead. After feedback, they realize that using 2l/t instead of l/t resolves their issue, leading to the correct calculation of moment of inertia. The conversation highlights the importance of distinguishing between average and final velocity in physics problems. Ultimately, the user successfully corrects their approach and finds a solution.
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Disregard this post, I will reply when I can get the equations to work for me! Sorry ...

Here's a problem I'm struggling with. It says I have a can of soup with a given mass (m), height (h), and diameter (2r). It's placed at rest on the top of an incline with a given length (l) and angle (theta) to the horizontal. I need to calculate the moment of inertia (I) of the can if it takes so much time (t) to reach the bottom of the incline. Here's what I tried:
<br /> <br /> mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}mv^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2} \\<br /> mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2} \\<br /> mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{v}{r}\right)^{2} \\<br /> mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}}{{r}^{2}}\right)} \\<br /> mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left l^{2}}{{r}^{2}t^{2}}\right)} \\<br /> mgl\sin\theta - \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2} = \frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left l^{2}}{{r}^{2}t^{2}}\right)} \\<br /> 2\left[m\left(gl\sin\theta - \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}\right)\right] = \frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left l^{2}}{{r}^{2}t^{2}}\right)} \\<br /> \left\frac{(2\left[m\left(gl\sin\theta - \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}\right)\right]}{\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{\left}\right) = I \\<br /> \frac{2m\left(gl\sin\theta-\frac{1}{2}\frac{l^{2}}{t^{2}}\right)}{\frac{l^{2}}{r^{2}t^{2}}} = I \\<br /> <br />

It looks like the units work out for the moment of inertia, but I'm getting the wrong answer. Is my algebra questionable or is there something else I'm not seeing? Thanks in advance.
 
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mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}mv^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2}
mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2}
mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{v}{r}\right)^{2}
mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}}{{r}^{2}}\right)}
mgl\sin\theta = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}+\frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left l^{2}}{{r}^{2}t^{2}}\right)}
mgl\sin\theta - \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2} = \frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left l^{2}}{{r}^{2}t^{2}}\right)}
2\left[m\left(gl\sin\theta - \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}\right)\right] = \frac{1}{2}I\left(\frac{\left l^{2}}{{r}^{2}t^{2}}\right)}
\left[\frac{(2\left[m\left(gl\sin\theta - \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{l}{t}\right)^{2}\right)\right]}{\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{\left}\right) = I
\frac{2m\left(gl\sin\theta-\frac{1}{2}\frac{l^{2}}{t^{2}}\right)}{\frac{l^{2}}{r^{2}t^{2}}} = I
It looks like the units work out for the moment of inertia, but I'm getting the wrong answer. Is my algebra questionable or is there something else I'm not seeing? Thanks in advance
 
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Your equations are fine, except just at the beginning!
Also a couple of arithmetic errors in the last two lines (per my first post)

You have set v = l/t, but that is the average velocity, and v, in your 1st line, is for the final velocity.

You have to put in the proper expression for the final velocity and it should all fall out.
 
Thanks for your help -- I got it. :) I just needed 2l/t instead of l/t and it worked out. :)
 
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